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Racing => Historic Group S Racing => Topic started by: John A Pucak on September 11, 2010, 02:56:03 AM

Title: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: John A Pucak on September 11, 2010, 02:56:03 AM
CAMS should allow this for Group Sc.
An all fiberglass body  2 door ( Coupe)
A 1975 Trabant , the one in the picture is the larger capacity 610 cc 2 stroke, or locally known as the ''Big Block''.
A tribute to Cold War design

Hollywood
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Barry Edmunds on September 11, 2010, 11:59:32 AM
What are the Group S requirements regarding roll-cages.
There might be a problem with attaching a roll cage to the chassis of a Trabant, assuming of course that this model has a chassis, or indeed anything else that would make it competitive.
Because of the power output from the Trabant big block you would probably have to limit its power output or include a rev limiter.
I guess that with the demise of the Cold War we can blame just about anything on that period of European history but I doubt if even the Cold War deserves to be blamed for this one.
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: MD on September 11, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
Hey Sheldon. There is a new contender for the title of shitbox. Fabulous power to weight specs. Reliablity is the name of the game here.      :D :D
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: NigelC on September 12, 2010, 08:45:24 AM
There would be no need to wear a helmet because anyone silly enough to drive a Trabbi hasn't got a brain worth protecting.
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Paul Newby on September 13, 2010, 09:21:52 AM
Hey John,

What is with the trendy Bultaco t-shirt?

Shouldn't you be wearing a hip Veloce t-shirt instead...  ::)

Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: John A Pucak on September 13, 2010, 11:33:21 PM
Dont be so hard on the humble Trabant. I rekon if we had enough of them , it would make a great 1 make series.
Paul , you shoudnt worry about my taste in T shirts. For the record i have been wearing my Veloce shirts around GREECE and Croatia

Hollywood
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Paul Newby on September 14, 2010, 11:15:03 AM
Hollywood, it would make sense if you actually owned a Bultaco, but you don't even own a motorcycle... ::)



Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 25, 2010, 08:49:15 AM
Given the body is made of cardboard - would the roll cage be made from cardboard tube....and glued into position with clag...or perkins paste for greater structural ridgidity...paper mache race seats maybe...
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: MD on November 25, 2010, 09:15:36 AM
I suspect the paint job is so good it holds it all in..
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Davidm1600 on November 25, 2010, 12:13:16 PM
As hilarious as it might seem, i reckon the idea of a trabbi challenge is pretty cool, afterall out here in Aus they used to have a series for postie bikes, while in the Uk, Citroen 2CVs. You could always go one further have a Trabbi vs Reliant Robin series, how funny would that be ! ;D  I nearly pissed myself reading Scott's comments - perfect !!
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on November 25, 2010, 04:40:05 PM
They're made of plastic, not cardboard.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duroplast

I'd race one.  I'd probably move the fuel tank from it's regular position though, of above the engine.....
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Paul Gulliver on November 25, 2010, 07:35:01 PM
Hey,

They look like the globe wheels choderboy is trying to sell
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: jimnielsen on November 25, 2010, 08:16:20 PM
looks like Musco's Sprint with a yellow stripe...
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: John A Pucak on November 25, 2010, 08:37:12 PM
Sheldon, going by your pic, the Trabby looks like she's a bit soft in the front suspension, or is it the plastic heating up in race conditions and  adding some unwanted body flex!
Having a close look at the Russian Tank Green Trabant in Croatia still makes me think it would make a great 1 make race series  . Just think how much horsepower you can get out of a 2stroke610cc
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Davidm1600 on November 25, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
ah yes and that was the "big Block"  ;D woo hoo !!
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: alfagtv58 on November 26, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Going off topic....but John is your new avatar pic a result of Sandown?
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: John A Pucak on November 26, 2010, 04:29:10 PM
I haven't even lifted the bonnet on the GT.
That was some archival footage from the 1st blowup
I tried to get a pic of me in front of Steve( Bert) C..........
but I could not get the profile to accept the pic

Hollywood
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: Scott Farquharson on December 20, 2010, 11:03:05 AM
Well since they are made of plastic maybe some plastic water pipe (you know the white stuff) would suffice for a cage....
Title: Re: Group S Candidate Croatian Style
Post by: John A Pucak on February 01, 2011, 03:26:08 PM
Gee, things are bit quite in Group S land!!!!