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Title: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 24, 2009, 01:48:55 PM

Some in-car video on YouTube from my drive at Mallala Six Hour last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqCK0AuwYGk

Enjoy!   :D



Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: JOHN G on May 24, 2009, 02:37:37 PM
Time for a one piece tailshaft.... ;)
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Ray Pignataro on May 24, 2009, 06:27:02 PM
Victor you are very calm and patient. me I would have been out of the car and long gone before it started making any of those noises after the first big bang.
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Ray Pignataro on May 24, 2009, 06:28:17 PM
Good footage of the track though.
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: John Toomath on May 24, 2009, 07:50:56 PM
What a fantastic sounding engine.  I've enjoyed hearing it from outside many times.  From inside it's even better. I hope the rest of the car is back to full health soon.
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Evan Bottcher on May 24, 2009, 08:19:54 PM
Strewth!  That scares the willies out of me.  Like your car is trying to come back from the dead and kill you...
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 25, 2009, 08:01:45 AM

Thanks all for the comments.  Yes, the engine note is fantatstic from the inside!  And are one-piece tailshafts for Alfettas available in Oz?

I didn't pre-empt the ending previously!  Whilst it was a little bit scary at the time, it makes for a great video afterwards!   No, Evan, we wouldn't be calling the car "Christine"!   :P
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: jimnielsen on May 26, 2009, 07:39:16 AM
beautiful quality video victor! Can you post some note about what programs you used to render it and what frame rate and compression you used?

Thanks, jimn~
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 26, 2009, 10:19:46 PM
Hi Jim,

I am pretty pleased with my first attempt at YouTube!

I originally used NeroVision Express to capture the video from the camera and then edit.  When I finished, I found that Nero did not have the right compression (15 FPS was visually too fast, yet audio was fine).  I was not familiar with the other compression methods either.

I then used bog standard Window Movie Maker!  I imported the raw captured video file (captured by Nero previously) and then edited it.  Then under "Finish Movie" used the "Save to my computer" option, choose the "Best quailty for playback on my computer" and hey presto there it is!  5mins 55secs was 72.2Mb, WMV file, 720x576 pixels at 25 FPS.

So I can't take much credit for it .... a Windows program that worked straight out of the box without too much fiddling!

Now, what YouTube contribution can I do next ............ ;D
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Ray Pignataro on May 26, 2009, 10:23:24 PM
Victor your next you tube contribution could be you doing a 100 metre sprint . like you should have been doing when your car was making those possesed by the devil noises.
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 26, 2009, 10:27:53 PM
That will not be a pretty sight  :o
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on May 27, 2009, 05:25:27 AM
I think the car is trying to tell you something about Mallala anyway.  Isn't that exactly the same spot where you did your last giubo?
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 27, 2009, 07:15:23 AM
You just had to bring that up... :-[
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: alfagtv152 on May 27, 2009, 05:46:28 PM
Who wants to take guess at what is broken on Victor& Mary's car with seeing the footage?.
I will take a guess and say that firstly(and I Suppose obviously) the tail shaft must be disconnected from the engine at the front(if the engine wasnt running).The second part is a little worse(Sorry Victor)because for the tail shaft to still spin with the engine stopped it must be the clutch flywheel turning it which also means there cant be any connection to the gearbox either as the car is stationary.I think it is going to be expensive!!.
Cheers
Andrew
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: jimnielsen on May 27, 2009, 09:31:29 PM
Victor, can you please let us know the manufacturer and model # of the recorder that you used as well?

cheers, jim.

Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 28, 2009, 12:01:52 AM
Car's going the hoist tomorrow.  Will know more then.  ???

The camera I use is an old Sony Handycam model DCR-TRV10E using the Mini DV tapes.  Next time I must remember to use my fish-eye lens!

Which might be a bit all academic if CAMS brings in the max weight 100gram rule for in-car cameras!  (Then linked to the actual video recorder in case bolted to the floor).   >:(

Cheers
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: jimnielsen on May 28, 2009, 07:26:46 AM
yes, if that actually happens it would be a better option to dump the 'DV' equipment and get one of those 'video-hero' things instead - just something else to spend money on!
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 28, 2009, 05:39:40 PM
Ok!  The lowdown.

Andrew's right.  The tailshaft is disconnected.  But any further thoughts on WHERE it is disconnected?

But to keep you in suspense for a little bit longer .......... :P

I'll post some pics after I come home from the 2010 Committee meeting later tonight.

Cheers

Victor

ps:  And those guys who were down at the workshop today ... don't post and spoil it!  Got some good pics!
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: alfagtv152 on May 28, 2009, 07:41:10 PM
I hope it is not to expensive Victor.
As far as camera's go I use a (cheapy) Take-it DV camera which records directly to SD card.The hand book lists the weight as 170 grams but I took off the wrist strap and removed the metal mounting brackets for it, I call it 100 grams!(battery in or out??).There may be others if you look but that Hero camera seems popular.
Cheers
Andrew
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Victor Lee on May 28, 2009, 11:13:21 PM
Ok, folks here it is:

The forward tailshaft has been ripped apart!  :o ??? :o ???

The first pic shows it still in the tunnel (notice the damage on the tunnel wall).  The second pic shows the forward piece on the bench (spring thingymegig on very top of the spline is also gone).

The rear part of broken tailshaft was hitting the tunnel in the video because I had my foot on the clutch....it seemed to be the logical action at that very moment.

What caused it?  Don't know at this stage!  The RHS gearbox bolt mount was missing...which was making that bang noise on every upchange as the entire gearbox moved.  Did that movement cause stress on the entire tailshaft?  Maybe.    Was the tailshaft fatigued?  Maybe.    We also need a new bellhouse casing. 

So, get a new front tailshaft, rebalance entire tailshaft, replace bellhouse casing, fix holes in floor, and we're back in business!  No other damage to the gearbox or the engine.  (Phew!)

We won't obviously be at Sandown this weekend, but will be at Phillip Island in July.

Cheers


Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: alfagtv58 on May 29, 2009, 09:15:42 AM
OMFG  :o :o :o That is amazing, you're lucky to still have a left leg Victor.
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Brett on May 29, 2009, 09:33:15 AM
Crikey! :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Ray Pignataro on May 29, 2009, 06:58:13 PM
mmmmm sabotage.
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Brett on May 29, 2009, 07:25:42 PM
A crook donut would have been a lot cheaper  ;D
Come to mention it, l did see someone from the other team walking around with a hacksaw the night before!!!
Next time we'll take the rottweilers, knew we were a threat but.......    ;)
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on May 29, 2009, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: Victor Lee on May 28, 2009, 11:13:21 PM
(notice the damage on the tunnel wall). 

Nope, can't see it, can you point it out maybe?

At least you finally have the excuse for the full body respray now Victor!!
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: MD on May 30, 2009, 05:33:43 PM
Buy the lottery ticket NOW !!

I have had a tailshaft break at the gearbox end and rip up the tunnel much the same way but that is just pure arrrsssee.
Title: Re: In-car @ Mallala 6 Hour
Post by: shane wescott on June 06, 2009, 10:46:05 AM
Great movie Victor, it had everything,

thrill to the sound of the gtv6,

laugh at the ford driver in front,

cry when the engine stops and it leaves the track,

and be very afraid when it tries to come back from the dead :-(

All it needed was the blatently out of place " Babe In Bikini" walking in front the of the car right at the end and it could have been nominated for an Arthouse Prize :-)

Hope the GTV6 is roaring again soon.