HI Guys,
I'm new to the this forum and had a question to ask.
I have recently bought a 2003 Spider and later found out that it has a direct injected engine.
I know from previous experience that direct injected engine have a tenancy for the intake valve to cake up with carbon. For this reason i was to install an oil catch can to prevent any blow by gases from entering back into the intake manifold.
I did notice however that there are two pipes connecting from the valve cover to before and after the throttle body. For this reason i'm unsure which of the pipes to connect the catch can to.
If anybody has install a catch can onto this engine before and can shed some light on the situation that will be greatly appreciated.
I have uploaded some pictures for reference.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/115mz6XMqzGCr6DYzVxTumJvq8DMZ8wXq/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uncKzVrdYoUw_DN-nzp7Ye97UORM2BHJ/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bqROlqk4CVg9fXXng6tCy33sSF8WQSyE/view?usp=sharing
Hi Arash79.
I have not fitted a catch can to a JTS, however the pipe downstream of the throttle body would be the one under engine vacuum and the route most likely used to vent (and burn) blow by vapours.
Although it looks like a fair bit of work with the engine installed, it may be worth looking down the inlet tract with a borescope to ascertain the condition of the inlet valves. Fitting suitably engineered inspection plugs to the inlet manifold has been done in the past. The plugs are removed say every 20k to look at the inlet tract condition and ascertain if cleaning is required. The cleaning seems to be very effective. You may not need to do any cleaning if low volitility oil has been used.
Thanks for the reply Colin,
I figured all I had to do was remove the hose connected to the PCV valve and connected the catch can hose between the valve cover and the PCV valve.
One connected then I could just mount the catch can in a suitable location. Is that correct?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UNr2h7sPTsA-fxVL4HfX2x1018dq1sRn/view?usp=sharing
Hi Arash79,
Sounds reasonable to me.
The large rectangular "cavity?" in the rocker cover between the oil filler and the breather fitting suggests an oil separator. The likely volume of this cavity would probably support a half decent oil separator arrangement. The "Y" like breather / air inlet fitting suggests cool filtered air is mixing in and about this area with blow-by gasses. The relatively cool inlet air should help condense the blow-by gases back into a liquid............oil, and then return this to the sump.
Any chance of whipping off the rocker cover for a look inside? If that rectangular cavity houses an oil separator it should, in theory, significantly reduce vapours heading past the PCV valve?
Thanks.... I think i worked it out.
I found these photos on another forum.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WvF0RHJmSEEly5E15u03aJTqdFX0_g2j/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H9RhxNQmAzVjc7TjFXqixQIwLlau1GL7/view?usp=sharing
Hi Arash79,
Your photo detailing the yellow highlighted hose seems to be the simplest and more obvious solution.
I'd be very reluctant to add anything else or disturb the cool / filtered air supply to the rocker cover / oil separator. Added complexity usually increases the likelihood of a failure.
Colin
Old topic, but this is my oil catch tank system
Maybe it's helpful to someone. :)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/14938307/IMG_20230213_114246.jpg)