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State Divisions => Western Australia => Topic started by: ugame on July 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM

Title: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
EDIT: Feel free to read on, but the car is now SOLD....to my own son :)

Hi Guys,

Not even prepped it for sale yet, but giving the WA enthusiasts a heads up.

I'll be sadly selling my black Alfa Romeo 916 GTV 2002 ph2 2.0 TS.
After much consideration, I can't justify it AND the Porsche.

So the GTV has to go, then the beetle will go also, and then once my boy has past his test in it, the 147 will go up for sale as well.

Paint is original. Clear coat faded on bonnet and some aging in other areas as well.

Engine is strong and doesn't leak loose oil over time unlike my 147 with the same engine.

Comes with plates [UAR916]

Only "quirks" to speak of are:
1) Passenger window isn't functional. Mechanism is fine, but motor is burnt out. Find a replacement motor, or have this one rewound.
2) Airbag occupancy light is on. Squib under seats have been checked, so it's the squib behind the wheel. I never bothered getting it fixed.
3) Intermittent hi temp reading of around 110deg I'd guess (just past the '0' of 90) which is then rectified by unplugging and re-plugging the temp sensor. Has only occurred twice as detailed on this forum. Never went higher.
4) Intermittent resistance on clutch pedal. Again, hardly ever occurs so I've just lived with it, with a view to fix when the clutch needs doing.
5) Aircon struggles in hot summer days so needs regas (began to under perform at the end of last summer. Was fine before that).

Stuff I've fixed:
1) Koni STR-T rear shocks fitted
2) Original OEM wheels installed (came with horrid 5 spoke 17's), with new Bridgestone RE003's (now 1.5 years old).
3) Timing belt done ~1.5 years ago
4) Rear left wheel bearing replaced.
5) ALL brake pads and rotors replaced.
6) Custom exhaust for more "broom" as shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ML-79HXuRw .
    Can supply with a rear muffler also if you want to make it more subtle.
7) Crankshaft phase sensor...is it? The easy to-do one... replaced only a month ago.
8 ) New battery installed as of 25/07/2018


All servicing done by Chilaberti under my ownership.

Car has a complete set of books and keys (yes ALL keys including master key)
Does not have original code card.

Interior is CLOTH (which having owned both, I prefer day to day in Perth summer).

Will post up-to-date pics when she's had a wash and vacuum.

$3K. May be listing for more once I'm ready to advertise on Carsales.

Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 25, 2018, 10:53:45 AM
Installed the new battery last night and all good. Indicator on old battery showed it was cactus.

In a twist last night, my other son (twins) who recently passed his test, completely un-prompted, said he'd like to buy the GTV off me lol. He had no idea I listed it here yesterday.

Would be great to see it stay in the family, but I'm going to be a good father and discuss his other options between now and the end of the week (boring cars like Corollas and stuff), and if he still wants it by the end of the week....well then that's the fastest sale ever lol.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on July 25, 2018, 11:25:27 AM
hahaha - its staying and you know it!
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: bazzbazz on July 25, 2018, 05:30:13 PM
So it will be the reverse of the normal father/son Dynamic . . . "Son, can I have the keys to the Alfa, like to take her for a  spin . . ."
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: Citroƫnbender on July 25, 2018, 06:46:14 PM
You don't think young laddie is setting his Dad up for something?  ;)
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 26, 2018, 10:29:22 AM
Well all I can say is (keeping in mind I've been away on holiday for over 3 weeks), I drove the GTV in to work today, and OMG I hope it stays.

Crazy little car.

....I think I need to drive the Porsche this weekend.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on July 26, 2018, 11:20:13 AM
At least you won't have to wait til the weather clears. Mine won't come out from under the blankets til the sun is shining.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 26, 2018, 11:40:45 AM
Quote from: poohbah on July 26, 2018, 11:20:13 AM
At least you won't have to wait til the weather clears. Mine won't come out from under the blankets til the sun is shining.
With the Porsche, I dont have to...but I still do ;)

I have driven it in the wet but preference is, it only comes out when the sun shines. :D

The $3K GTV? Not so much :D
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 30, 2018, 02:57:13 PM
My boy is still thinking about the GTV but life's been busy so not had much time to think and talk about it and sit down and shot him other options in his budget.

I'll still wash it and throw up some recent photos this coming weekend.

In the mean time I'm letting him drive it as much as possible so he gets used to it and can then compare against anything else he considers.

And on that note, in another twist of fate...... today I traded the 147 in for a low K 2007 Honda Civic.

What? It's a manual at least.

Hopefully will collect later this week.

It was a completely emotionless trade and I'll miss the 147 dearly. But where I'm at now, a generic commuter box with no timing belt is what appeals to me.

And I must say, over other options, the dashboard on a civic is what sold the car to me.

Silly little things.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on July 30, 2018, 07:25:19 PM
At least it shouldn't ever go wrong on you.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 31, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
Any guesses on what a 2005 pre facelift 147 with almost spotless interior was worth at trade in?  ::) At a main dealership BTW. Not a small Honest John yard.....
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: SeleMatt on July 31, 2018, 11:23:18 AM
Something insulting no doubt [emoji849]...$2,500...?...

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Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on July 31, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Given you were only trading up to a 2007 Honda, I'm guessing circa $1000.

We traded our immaculate V6 04 Ford Escape (with about 100,000km) on brand new Subaru Forester in 2012. We got less than half what the dealer sold it for two weeks later.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 31, 2018, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: poohbah on July 31, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Given you were only trading up to a 2007 Honda, I'm guessing circa $1000.

We traded our immaculate V6 04 Ford Escape (with about 100,000km) on brand new Subaru Forester in 2012. We got less than half what the dealer sold it for two weeks later.

Lower
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on July 31, 2018, 02:25:49 PM
Sheesh, that must have hurt.

After the Escape experience, I vowed I would never bother with a trade in again. Always get more selling privately, provided you are prepared for it to drag on a bit.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on July 31, 2018, 02:40:13 PM
Yep exactly. On this occasion I couldn't be bothered with the wait and the time wasters and low ballers I knew would happen.

When trading in, it's all about the "Change over price".

They came close to a change over I was happy with and that's all that counts really, regardless of how the numbers are moved around on the page.

Rather than upping the offer on the 147, they discounted the car I was buying. All the same thing.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on July 31, 2018, 03:25:00 PM
yeah, pretty much the same reason we traded the Escape.

Incidentally, after the 2012 Forester was written off by a red-light runner when it was just over 2 years old (so just past the new-for-old replacement cut-off under our insurance) I also vowed I will never again buy a brand new car.

The depreciation impact on the insurance payout meant I still ended up thousands out of pocket when buying a replacement.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on August 17, 2018, 10:51:19 AM
Well today I'm wearing my "NINE ONE SIX" t-shirt to work, along with my piloti driving shoes, and I drove the GTV in to work, on what is pretty much the last drive of the car under my ownership.

Tomorrow I will wash and vacuum it, and sign it over to it's new owner.






....my son :)
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on August 17, 2018, 06:46:20 PM
Huzzah! ;D
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on August 17, 2018, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: poohbah on August 17, 2018, 06:46:20 PM
Huzzah! ;D

Indeed! :)

Only now I'm finding myself saying things like "yep we'll get it serviced and fix that window winder and I'll help you out with the cost".

lol......I dont think this outcome has helped me much hhahahahaha.

But what a great first car, and this was my original plan back when I even purchased the silver one. The GTV was eventually meant to be for this son, and the Beetle for the other.

I just kind of....forgot ;)
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on August 18, 2018, 12:10:15 AM
Everyone's a winner.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on August 22, 2018, 11:02:41 AM
Quote from: poohbah on August 18, 2018, 12:10:15 AM
Everyone's a winner.

Well you say that :P

I did the right thing and took it in for a service saying I'd pay half.

But then as I know the car, I left it with instructions of "oh and change the thermostat, and the temp sensor, and see what you can do with that window that doesn't work".

As always Leo and the guys did a great job and the car now has 2 fully working windows and temp ranges 100% normal.

.....and I ended up paying 2/3's of the bill coz I couldn't bring myself to make my boy pay half lol.
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: poohbah on August 22, 2018, 11:56:50 AM
Look at it this way - you have appointed a custodian to look after your car who paid a small stipend for the privilege, and who is also now contributing a proportion of the upkeep.

Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on August 22, 2018, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: poohbah on August 22, 2018, 11:56:50 AM
Look at it this way - you have appointed a custodian to look after your car who paid a small stipend for the privilege, and who is also now contributing a proportion of the upkeep.

Absolutely. The verbal agreement is that, should he consider selling it in the future, I have first refusal.

Look....if I ever "come back to the fold" it really should be in one of the following:

Classic Busso powered Alfetta
Busso 916
Busso 937
or if I need it as a cruiser.....
Facelift 156 or a 1750TBi

TBH with the last 2, I'd also be considering scratching an odd Audi/BMW itch that I now also have.

But my point is, regardless of the above, that little twin spark is so great! And despite it's fading bonnet paint, the car is in tip top shape. Picking it up from Leo's yesterday I glanced around the car park, and (no offence to anyone) but I swear it looked like one of the best examples there that day.

Paying for little things like a window that wont go up and down, in my mind, moves it from being a $3K car to a $5K car in the eyes of the average punter. It's an investment for sure.

Throw maybe $1K at some paint in the places it needs it, and wait for a tan leather interior to come up at a wreckers in good condition, and I think it's a winner.

But all optional of course.

That reminds me...... Finally threw this together (filmed it ages ago)
https://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=18635.0
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on August 31, 2018, 01:20:12 PM
Just had to share....

1) My son, without mentioning anything to me, shared fresh photos of his new toy (the 916) on instagram. He doesn't show much emotion about it to me, but clearly he's proud of it.

2) This morning, I'm sitting IN the Porsche, warming up the engine, waiting for my son to move the GTV before we head off to work in the Porsche. I'm watching the GTV moving on the drive in my side mirror, and I'm finding myself mumbling to myself "What a wonderful car. What an wonderful wonderful car!"

I'm sitting in a Porsche Cayman S.......staring lovingly, longingly at what used to be my $3K Alfa 916 GTV.

Man what an under appreciated car.  People don't get it. We do!
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: Pseudonym on September 06, 2018, 08:08:30 PM
Dad just got a 916 spider for 2400, 80,000ks, I'm just testing it out now - cracking little machine. Yes it's FWD and the gear shift isn't the best but for a third of the cost of an MX-5 you can't go wrong. And it came with a Bluetooth head  unit amongst the red leather, so Idrove home listening to jazz on YouTube last night wondering what exactly happened to my youth 😂
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: bazzbazz on September 06, 2018, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: ugame on August 17, 2018, 09:37:13 PM
But what a great first car

Wish my dad had got me a 916 GTV as MY first car . . . .all I can say is "ADOPT ME!"   :)
Title: Re: FS: 916 GTV TS 2002 Ph2 black
Post by: ugame on September 10, 2018, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: Pseudonym on September 06, 2018, 08:08:30 PM
Dad just got a 916 spider for 2400, 80,000ks, I'm just testing it out now - cracking little machine. Yes it's FWD and the gear shift isn't the best but for a third of the cost of an MX-5 you can't go wrong. And it came with a Bluetooth head  unit amongst the red leather, so Idrove home listening to jazz on YouTube last night wondering what exactly happened to my youth 😂

Yup mine had, about 74000 on the clock when i got it hey.

Has about 117000 on it now or something like that.

The first one I had was a bit of a loose dog tbh but the black one is tight as a drum. Everything lines up. No gaps by the headlights. Amazingly straight little car.

I think it's quite easy to get a good one, as they weren't exactly the target of your average hoonagan.

Try and find a mint unmolested Nissan 180sx, and that's another story. The Nissan being worth MUCH more oddly.

It's a funny old world.