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Technical => 160 Series (90, 75, 164 Sedans) => Topic started by: MattyG on March 29, 2018, 07:30:05 AM

Title: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: MattyG on March 29, 2018, 07:30:05 AM
Hi I have the daughters 156 jts 2.0 that needs a Cam and balance shaft belt. I was going to do the water pump at the same time but what else should I do?

Can I just put the spring kit in the Variator or should I replace it. And in doing the spring do I need to do the variator bearing as well?

It's done 200,000 km

Happy for ideas.

Cheers Matt


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Title: Re: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: Citroënbender on March 29, 2018, 11:23:07 AM
Doing something with the variator is a good idea, the refurb kit is appreciably cheaper than a whole unit. A new seal is good practice.

You'll still need the variator socket, the TDC tool set, all the usual kit plus I recommend a counterhold tool for the exhaust cam sprocket.

Out of four TS motors I've been intimate with, one had slight weeping from the balance shaft oil seals. All had weeping from the balance shaft end caps at the opposite side but only one is accessible with the gearbox still attached.
Title: Re: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: bazzbazz on March 29, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
ALWAYS replace the Water Pump when doing belt change, 1/2 of belt failures is due to water pump bearing failure. You must remember the water pump is also a pulley.

This shows why very clearly -

http://www.ausalfa.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30212&hilit=why+you+must+change+water+pump (http://www.ausalfa.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30212&hilit=why+you+must+change+water+pump)
Title: Re: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: MattyG on March 29, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
What is the deal with the TDC tool why can't Alfa just put in timings marks like every other car?


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Title: Re: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: Citroënbender on March 29, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
It's far more accurate.

There are some indexing marks but they're not to be considered reliable.

With any older Euro car, purchase price is just the entry ticket.
Title: Re: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: bazzbazz on March 30, 2018, 02:34:41 PM
May I suggest just buying a new Variator, the last thing you want is to find out that a rebuild didn't work and having to the whole lot over again.
Title: Re: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: MattyG on March 30, 2018, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Citroënbender on March 29, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
It's far more accurate.

There are some indexing marks but they're not to be considered reliable.

With any older Euro car, purchase price is just the entry ticket.

Good point, best bit is the entry was only $500


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Title: Re: What to do when I do the belts 156
Post by: MattyG on March 30, 2018, 07:05:52 PM
Thanks guys. I might just add one to the list


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