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Technical => 900 Series (Alfasud, Alfasud Sprint, 33) => Topic started by: SteveHobart on September 10, 2017, 05:25:24 PM

Title: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on September 10, 2017, 05:25:24 PM
Hey guys! Firstly thank you for all your assistance and answers to (probably) stupid questions over the last few months. I thought I would take the chance to give those interested an overview of what I'm up to!

So the story. I found a unwanted (not running) Alfa 33 1.7 8V for a bargain price of $200 with Rego! Yes $200 mainly because it wasn't running and the current owner couldn't figure it out.

Anyway, $300 (delivered on a tilt tray) and it took 15 minutes to get it running (bad earth connection).

So I enjoy doing a bit of Khanacross and the car club I'm in is looking to start Rallycross so I'm thinking the Alfa would be a great car for this type of thing. I would also love to partake in some hill climbs and other assorted classic car events. So I'm looking for a good allrounder.

First things first, crunchy steering! So strut bearings need to be done. Ordered a set and installed them. Pretty straight forward job!

When the springs were out to do the strut bearings, I had them reset by the local spring maker to 35mm lower than stock. This has given a slightly lowering effect on the front without going silly and the stock shocks are still in great nick, so cleaned and all put back together.

Next stop is the engine bay. Oil and Filter replaced and my much publicised fuel pump issues fixed. Sprung for all new stainless fuel lines (it's a weird size) and replaced the old ones

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Bit of bling in the engine bay!

Also took the wheels off with new Pirelli P1 tyres in 195/60R14 going on the standard rims tomorrow. I chose the Pirelli's because they were a good allrounder, they'll do Khanacross, Hill Climbs and will run Ok on a track. The below is the rubbish retread tyres in the wrong size that the prior owners had on it:

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I've also been having a bit of fun with some racing stripes! Lol I know this won't appeal to the purists but I reckon they have added to at least 20KPH to the top speed!

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So next on the list of 'to do's' are:
- Flush radiator
- Probably flush engine oil again
- remove rear springs and have them dropped 35mm
- changeout CV boots on LHS

And she should be (a) roadworthy and (b) ready to race!

Any other tips and hints, I'm all ears but I'll keep you updated with any additional works!


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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on September 11, 2017, 05:15:25 PM
New boots for the little Alfa!
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Went the 195/60R14's which are a little wider than the standard 185/65R14's but not much taller. Pirelli P1's which were on sale at a reasonable price ensures that the little Alfa remains all Italian (in brand anyway)


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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: poohbah on September 11, 2017, 07:15:45 PM
Looks great Steve, what a bargain for $300.

I like the stripes too. But why not tricolore? That would add 50kph! 8)
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: amichie on September 11, 2017, 07:34:35 PM
What a bargain. Lovely car and lovely motor.
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on October 15, 2017, 08:18:22 PM
Righto. A little bit of an update. Have been working on the Alfa here and there over the last few weeks. Have got the CV replaced and refitted with new boots (and what a PITA that was!).
Have fettled the suspension a little. Have had the coils reset by our local suspension expert which has lowered the front by 35 mm and the rears by 30mm. This has given me (measurements from the bottom of the guard to the ground) RF 610, RR 615, LF 605, LR 610. Gives a bit of an allowance for the drivers weight. I think it looks good too!
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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on October 21, 2017, 07:17:26 PM
Bit more Alfa done today. Have refit the Drivers Seat. It makes a huge difference with some extra foam bolstering and three new springs in the seat base! You don't fall through it whenever you sit down!
Had time to change over one spark plug just after dinner tonight, pulled the old plug which I think is really old. Covered in dry black deposits. I'm hoping that I have done this to it with all the short runs and idling and it's not a sign of a leaking Carbie (or carbies) as it definately looks like carbon/fuel deposits not oil. Fingers crossed.
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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on October 22, 2017, 04:28:51 PM
So pulled the last three plugs. All the same! Glad I decided to replace these! So it's all serviced now and took her for a quick spin. It's a great little car to drive! Sounds amazing too!
Only thing is, the brakes seem really weak. Not sure if it's because I'm also pressing the accelerator or they are just shit. Any advice?


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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: bonno on October 22, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
Steve
I would check the condition of pads and if sufficient meat, give them a good bleed. Also check for any signs of leakage around master cylinder and brake calipers.   
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on November 12, 2017, 02:34:38 PM
Alright, we are all ready for a roadworthy! It scrubs up alright IMHO, would be great to properly straighten the bodywork etc etc but we'll run it for a while and see where the priorities lay!


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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on November 12, 2017, 02:36:15 PM
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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: poohbah on November 12, 2017, 03:04:10 PM
Nice work Steve, she looks fantastic - Ready to Race!  Are the carpets original?
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on November 12, 2017, 03:08:45 PM
Quote from: poohbah on November 12, 2017, 03:04:10 PM
Nice work Steve, she looks fantastic - Ready to Race!  Are the carpets original?

Yes. All original Carpets as well as the rear seats. The front seats are the only ones I had to touch.


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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: poohbah on November 12, 2017, 03:23:39 PM
I'm a sucker for red interiors. Nice.
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: 81sprint on November 15, 2017, 05:01:35 PM
Nice looks like a bargain.

If you plan to race it, or even drive it enthusiastically on the street, fit a baffled sump now (I cant stress this enough, achilles heel of the 8v boxers). If you don't you will spin a bearing and you will cook a conrod. If not worse.

As for the brakes I'd have the booster rebuilt as a matter of course they appear to go off over time.
A kit through the calipers would probably be a good idea.
Set of braided lines, bleed and some Ferodo DS2500 pads.
If you're looking for a bit less fade you can use the calipers and discs from a 16v.

Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: 81sprint on November 20, 2017, 12:21:07 PM
I found some photos of a sump made for the sud series that might be helpful.
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: 81sprint on November 20, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
Files too large for one post.
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: Sportscar Nut on November 20, 2017, 09:19:20 PM
Ha ha - looks very similar to the sump on my Sud Beninca's made 24 years back! Have never had a bearing issue since fitting.

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on November 25, 2017, 07:49:58 PM
Hi all! Sorry for the lack of updates! Have been messing around with the Alfa for a bit! Took her down to a mechanics to get a pre-roadworthy inspection and have a little more to do it seems. The list given is below:
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Already ticked some off like the heater fan, reverse lights, front strut bearing, seat belt retraction and wheel bearing. Have ordered all parts for the oil leak (it's from the selector input on the gearbox) which will have the advantage of giving a new selector bush as well, the gear selector is horribly wobbly! I think the easiest option on the brakes is to get Enzed or someone to make up the hoses, there seems confusion as to what hose actually fits mine!

Anyway first event tomorrow, Khanacross! It's all lowish speed, first and second gear mostly on a grass track. Am looking forward to it!


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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: SteveHobart on November 25, 2017, 07:51:28 PM
And thank you for the tips! Will look into a baffled sump. Is there an issue with the oil pick up on these things?
Also it pumps out a fair bit of blue smoke on start up which seems to disappear pretty quickly when you take it for a run. I'm thinking stem seals?


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Title: Re: 33 1.7 8V Build
Post by: Bigbooty on November 28, 2017, 10:42:34 PM
I was under the impression that all QVs came with red carpet and the chequered print seats?