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Title: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 10, 2017, 06:09:43 PM
Hello Alfisti, 

I thought I would share a barn find journey with you..starting from the start..well a few days after the start.  Got to dash now but let me know if there is interest and Ill share.  Id also be keen to hear views on what one does with a low k one owner 1985 gtv6.
Ive had them before and love them but Ive never had a nice one.  Im not sure if I do yet...but things look promising.

The story starts about 3 yrs ago.  I moved into a new house and blow me if there wasnt a gtv6 across the street with 4 flat tyres..tyres that turned out to be the original pirellis tyres she left the showroom wearing.  I got to know the owner, a top bloke who was not too sure whether to let her go for various reasons.  So I let him know I was interested and mentioned every year 😀.

Got to dash..tbc.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on June 11, 2017, 07:16:17 AM
Hi Mike
Congratulations on the purchase of the1985 GTV6 shed find and yes there will be definitely interest in sharing your experience on getting her back on the road. I can envisage numerous maintenance tasks that need to be undertaken, such as brakes, engine, fuel and electrical systems, together with all the associated ancillaries such as coolant hoses, brake lines, fuel tank/lines, wiring just to name a few. I have one simple tip in ensuring the success of this project and that is to develop a simple plan for managing these tasks.
Cheers
bonno
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: John A Pucak on June 11, 2017, 08:52:15 AM
Pictures please
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: aggie57 on June 11, 2017, 10:21:01 AM
So have you actually bought it?
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 01:28:03 PM
Righto.  That was a little mean to kick this off without photos 😀...but thanks to this site not auto resizing photos it makes it a little more involved.  Anyhoo..

So a couple of years went by.  I would drive past the car every day and think..one day.  I was starting to worry that by the time he was ready to move it on that the car would be more trouble than it was worth.

I want to give a sense of how long I had to wait😀.  It was killing me.  The car was not being started and we all know the headaches this can cause.  It was also under a carport with no walls so was coping some of the elements, although importantly in Perth, not much sun.

I am well aware that Alfettas reset on the kms at 99k so was also not really sure whether it was a low k car. All I knew is that I would like a gtv6 at some point, but not just a dunger, but rather something worth spending money on...you know..good bones..nice history, known issues from original ower.  That kind of stuff. Of course other things with gtv6s...loke interior that is not grey from sun and plastics that have not been punished by years of neglect. Being the way I am, I also woukd prefer that I could value add to the vehicle..ie play with it and inject some blood sweat and tears. Make it my own.

Anyway..sorry..getting side tracked!  So last week we chatted and he agreed to sell it.  One thing important to me was that he got a price he was happy with.   I dont need the bad vibes that come from ripping someone.  I knew more about gtv6 prices than him and suggested he review the market.  Its tricky as carsales is all over the place.  The car obviously needed work and because it was jammed hard up against the wall on 4 flat tyres.  So I offered what I felt was above market value, indeed some mates think Ive overpayed....good.  i rest at night and have a low k gtv6.  Im happy, hes happy.  So we had a few long neck home brews and chatted about all sorts including his time with the vehicle.  Great stories and for me, important in the whole transition of ownership. 

He has oviously been quite organised as he had kept both sets of keys, all brochures and service records. The immobiliser is the only mod on the car..actually there is an aftermarket replacement exhaust.  That appears to be it.

Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 01:48:00 PM
Great!  Ive bought a GTV6.  I have a borderline salvagable gtv6 for parts/ resto in the shed but other than that Ive not owned a gtv6 for...7yrs or so. It was a Silver one owner again I think...bought back when prices were rediculous..2k I paid.  It was straight but tired and needed a paint etc etc.  Anyway, its fair to say I missed it.

Now to get the darn thing to the shed...Easy! Just blow the tyres up and roll her onto a flat bed.  Er..not quite sunshine.  The valves on the wheels had oxidised and the adaptor on the compressor was not screwing on.  I did manage to get the dpare to blow up as this had not oxidised.  Two wheels on my spare gtv6 were accessible in the shed so those were promtly borrowed and that left me with one more....hmm...integrale has same stud pattern and I have a spare set of rims off mine so bingo! 
Next step..does it now roll?...why yes it does...bugger me, the rear claipers had not seized!  Oh at this point I was able to confirm that the types were 14th week 1981..or 91 tyres based off tyre markings.  Interestingly pree 2000 tyres only had two digits for month and one for year...after 2000 they had 2 digitis for year..rather more informative!  But owner said they were the factory fitted tyres and everything he helas told me has turned out to be true...suspect the last few thousand ks were done on super hard tyres...excellent longevity...terrible road holding 😀.  Of course this also begs the question how much maintwnance was going on at this point.

Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
 More pics.
Gtv6 paperwork
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 01:58:50 PM
GTV6 15inch alloy wheels with original Pirreli's...a little worse for wear!
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 02:20:05 PM
Bonno, you are absolutely right.  Make a list I will! 

First thing on the list is see if I have an engine that will start.  That begins with assessing electrical situation post rats...which requires an immobilser fob...the owner found 1...its cactus.  He is now looking for the second. In the interim, we have delved into the engine bay.

But before I get onto that, heres a glimmer of hope and ultimatly why I handed over the folding stuff...the interior is really quite lovely. Very presentable as is before any tidy up.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
And she is on here way to the shed where she will likely spend quite some time and punish my wallet...but my eyes are wide open.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 02:33:53 PM
First things first. Up on the hoist to see whats what.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 02:35:08 PM
So far so good.  Fitting from bottom of fuel tanks leaking
...god todays fuel stinks when its old!
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 02:36:35 PM
So nothing of real convern underneath and a rather nice exhaust with a hard to get rear section.  Not the factory exhaust but a good substitute.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Now to put the audience..if I have one 😆 to work.  The engine turns...tick...almost 720deg....cross.  no3 exhaust valve is stuck.  Some hot air down the inlet has resulted in some movement but not much.  Question is...attempt to free...or head off for a proper look see.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: carlo rossi on June 11, 2017, 02:52:12 PM
*Im thunking that it was probably laid for thatb reason
I think it wise to remove both heads
probably a bit of corrosion in the heads as well
letys hope not
A great example how many kms has she done looks like under 50k i guess
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 03:16:31 PM
True. It could ahve been, except owner said car rego was let to lapse as it was to be driven by son who then moved to melb.  It also needed 4 new tyres and developed a clunk in the clutch..something I belive is actually the bushed mount above the diff. So no...I am enclined to think this is an issue from sitting.  Indeed the exhaust valve was shut to start with and then got hung up. 

One ither important bit of info...very few kms done on rebuilt heads after a cambelt snapped due to age.  Tutt tutt.  So this was rebuilt.  The car was already doing less than 1000kms a year due to not being primary vehicle. 

A bit of elbow grease and its already looking a little less sad. 
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 11, 2017, 04:37:57 PM
With the cam covers off a fee things are revealed.  Mechanically things look ok, nothing to be concerned about on cams and buckets etc. Oil does not look overly bad but its not fresh, no surprises there.  The one thing that instantly stands out is a wheel nut used as a head bolt nut.... in two minds as to whether to publish whos fine work this belongs to...
Needless to say that this adds weight to pulling heads off for closer inspection.

Oh well, was always going to get new new cams belt and pump etc so this is not a large deviation and surely good insurance.

Radiator is full of green stuff and still holds fluid.  It's something!

So next steps:

Get engine started:
1. Remove heads and make plan
2. Jig up fuel system to bypass car fuel system.
3. Repaire witing where rats have had a little taste test...actually only a couple of cases of this.

Once that is clear, get quatoe for budy work. 

Rust to sort:
1. Base of windscreen driver side...original screen...do I remove..will it crack..hmmm
2. Hatch passenger side..I have a spare..maybe repair..perhaps replace
3. Dirver front fender. The only place the car has ever veen tapped.  Alledgedly small tap. Closer inspection required.  Poor repair means bottom rusted out and humidity during painting has left little blisters all over the fender. 
4. Passenger bumper mount is rusted through.  New parts will need to be welded in...never seen this area rust out personally.  Anyone else?  Assume Ill have to borrow bits from another car

5. Passenger wing mirror..replace

Thats the plan.  Lets see how we go...its going to be interesting.

All comments help etc are most welcome.  I know my Alfettas but not so much gtv6.  The car started life in the blue mountains...anyone know it?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on June 11, 2017, 06:30:08 PM
Mike
She looks very good and what you have detailed so far in your initial inspection and your proposed plan of action is definitely the way to go. With regards to rust on DS front guard and front windscreen, I would definitely check further in  particular around lower wheel arch behind panel were you have spotted signs of rust and  windscreen by lifting rubber on the lower corners. If surface rust only this will not require windscreen removal,  just treat appropriately (rust converter) and prime,  ready for re-coat. 
cheers
bonno
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 12, 2017, 01:00:18 AM
Will be sure to have a very good look at the wondsreen rust. Hoping it does not het ugly under the fender but expect it will.  The door where it meets the fender at the top is not perfectly alligned so will be having a close look and replacing whole lot if needs be.

A couple more pics after washibg the dust off.  It will need a light cut but no rush for this..other than motivation!
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on June 12, 2017, 12:17:00 PM
Mike, as a fellow GTV (2.0L) owning Sandgroper can I just say what a great find. I am very jealous. I wish the body and interior of mine was in as good nick as yours.

Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: sportiva on June 12, 2017, 08:23:54 PM
I would pull the screen out. It is very easy to do and will give you a chance to inspect the whole window frame for rust
The screen is easy to remove and replace even with the dash in place. The GTV6 screen was not glued in at the factory
I posted instructions and pictures on the BB post #5
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/alfetta-gtv6-1972-1986/543209-windshield-questions.html
And more information on this thread
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/alfetta-gtv6-1972-1986/449689-gtv6-windshield-removal-2.html

With a little bit of sorting you will have a good car.

Good luck
Glen
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 13, 2017, 01:40:14 AM
G'day Glen,

thanks for the tips and kind comments all.  I have not seen windscreen removal done like that, I will certainly look to do the same.  I am a little cautious as it still has its original heated screen in the car, but it certainly seems that this method is low risk if careful.  Its been 20yrs since I removed my last screen, we did not break it then either.

Nothing wrong with the 2L cars Poohbar :-).  I love mine, the 1.8, 2l's, plastic and steel bumpers, all great cars. Lets face it, they handle better than a GTV6 (mm but that noise!).  A lot of fun for not a lot of outlay.  I keep trying other marks and keep coming back, nothing quite comes close to the sheer fun factor and bang for buck as an Alfetta.  My biggest issue these days is fining the space to house all the little orphans!  Even when I take them in with the intention to part them out, I rather struggle, and instead see 'potential' haha. 

Not much to report today, worked late, dreamt of busso tunes.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: LukeC on June 13, 2017, 07:12:01 AM
Hi Mike

Definitely one to keep original as possible!

I publicly applaud your personal integrity to not exploit the situation financially. So many people would....

Here is my windscreen instructions: http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=13945.0 (http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=13945.0) complete with link to my choice tools. Worked a treat for me.

 
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: aggie57 on June 13, 2017, 09:44:10 AM
I am a little cautious as it still has its original heated screen in the car, but it certainly seems that this method is low risk if careful. 

Hi Mike

Just to clarify, the front screen is not heated.  The small wires running up the middle and across the top are the inbuilt radio aerial.  But you're right to be cautious - unobtanium these days.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on June 13, 2017, 10:40:13 AM
Agree about the sound Mike - that's why my daily is a Busso V6 156! Have fun with the project and keep us posted. :D
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on June 13, 2017, 02:14:29 PM
Hi Mike
With reference to point 4 of reply 16, the rust on the PS body panel (photo 135806),  is it surface rust or has it rusted thru? If rusted through it should not be too expensive to repair (cut out and weld new piece in and then treat and paint accordingly both sides). It would be interesting to determine the cause (battery acid/coolant overflow). The frt bumper mtg brkts I found mine also had surface rust, simple clean up,  prime and paint.
cheers
bonno
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on June 13, 2017, 07:26:09 PM
Mike
I have included a photo of the condition of my frt bumper bracket, prior to treatment when my car was resprayed in 2016, however no evidence of corrosion on the body panel mentioned in my earlier post. Additionally, I noticed from the photo that the longitudinal panels alongside the side skirts appears to have signs of surface rust (only), this was similar to mine which I treated the entire underside with a an appropriate under body bitumous paint that was applied by hand. Just keep this in mind when developing your plan, but first priority is to get the engine running as you have indicated.
Cheers
bonno
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 13, 2017, 09:39:43 PM
Ah yes..sorry..windscreen is aerial not heater..oops.  gee its a good screen though...hate to break it.

The lh front bumper bracket is not a happy camper. See attached.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 13, 2017, 10:30:50 PM
Bit more ccleaning and the passenger side is starting to look respectable.

Driver side head is almost off ready for inspection.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 13, 2017, 10:37:12 PM
Head off. Will clean up tomorrow. No3 exhaust still very tight. Nothing immediately obvious as yet.  Bores srill have their cross hatching. Lots of crystaline crap in the coolant which is not pretty.

Then had a little play with some 17x8 Speedlines. Would be tight.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: aggie57 on June 14, 2017, 07:40:40 AM
An almost perfectly straight front bumper!!  One exists!  And a lovely little 128 3P in the background.   Very nice.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on June 14, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Mike
With regards to your LHS mirror, it might be worth fixing by cleaning, prep and repaint in lieu of sourcing a new or good second hand unit (cost and availability). The corrosion in the lower part of engine bay LHS is a little worse than I anticipated and will require a replacement section to be fabricated in.
cheers
bonno
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 14, 2017, 09:24:35 AM
Ah yes, the bumper is in remarkably good nick. The car was parked nose into a garage hidden away from loght on the front end. 

I love my little 3P.  A super car in all respects. Deove it across Aus with Dave who is also on this forum.  Good times.

Yes def. Some fab work for the bumper section.  A bugger but it is what it is. 

As for wing mirror I actually have a spare I think on my spare Gtv.  Will have to check that.  It can certainly be salvaged. Just surface..although impressive surface none the less.  Not sure why it coped such a beating.

Ive had a closer look at the driver gaurd and it looks to habe had a very localised tap.  The poor paint prep on the repair has introduced some humidity damage which will require it to be rubbed bak and addressed.  The missalognment between gaurd and door appears to be in the door hinge.  I think I can get the allignment right by adjustment.

Today the head will be inspected closely and a plan made. 

In liue of more GTV6 pics...128 goodness 😀
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Fetta GTV on June 14, 2017, 02:35:04 PM
That little 128 is a sweet car, what an adventure we had.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 14, 2017, 07:22:13 PM
The great Australian bight! I was scared to back it up to much 😀
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 14, 2017, 09:28:00 PM
So yesterday we were wondering why the vales were sticking on no3 exhaust.  Totad the valves are out and as you can see there has been moisture in the cylinder which has likely resulted from a quick start up..back out of deiveway..back back innand shut down.  Moisture wpuld jave remained behind and 4 years later..walla..sticking valves.

Actually no3 exhaust had to be tapped out with comviction.  Seats looks good but will recieve a light skim and lap.  Valve stem seals are supple but will be replaced and all springs will be tested.  Valves appear straight and according to orevious owner were replaced.  Need to confirm they used correct sodium cooled exhaust valves.  I belive they were from factory?

If assumption of moisture is correct then some comver remains for rhs head and given the need for a light head skim Ive decided to remove both heads and have new guides seals and seats plus head face.

Onward.


Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: 17fitty on June 15, 2017, 08:34:15 AM
Interesting read and great find-look forward to reading more-great 128 as well
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 16, 2017, 09:42:16 AM
Friday!  I love Fridays...who doesnt?

Anyway, nothing happened on thursday.  Went to tje footy to watch a poor display of gootball as the cats took on the Ealges.  To my dissapointment the Cats could not get it done.  Well thats my afl fix for another 5years...about the frequency that I get to a game...always in the shed!!  Much better.

Onto the subject of tyres for a moment.  I fitted up the 17a8 rims the other day..the white ones in the pics.  They need a bitof maching to work and truth be told they are for my intergale not the Alfa.  It was always my intention to get tyres onto the factory rims,  but I do want a nice set of alloys as well at some point.  I personally think 3pc 16inch will be the go..although tyres for 16s is not getting any easier with Yoko my goto with the azenis.

For the factory fitment gtv6 15inch rim Ive got these options:

GTV6 on 15" original wheels:
195/60R15
Pirelli P1 @ $193ea
Michelin XM2 @ $186ea
Prices are fitted.
Question...what are people running and what are they happy with?  The obvious choice is Pirelli and I think I will go this way..but amusingly after all my years of Alfa ownership..Ive never owned a new set.

At any rate I'm a aways off needing tyres I suspect...between engine paintwork and rust Ill be lucky to have her on the road this side of xmas.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Alfapride on June 16, 2017, 12:57:31 PM
I'm very happy with pirelli
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on June 16, 2017, 02:16:30 PM
For what its worth Mike, I've got 15x6 Simmons rims wearing Goodyear Eagle 205/55/R15s on my GTV.

Steering was pretty heavy til I replaced the small diameter sports steering wheel with standard GTV wheel.

I have started thinking about replacing the tyres as they are getting long in the tooth, but have discovered that it it is a little bit of a challenge to find equivalent Goodyears in that size.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: rowan_bris on June 16, 2017, 02:24:29 PM
I have 195/55/15 Yoko Advan Neova AD08R which are nice and sticky
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: GG105 on June 17, 2017, 06:57:09 AM
Mike, this is a great read. It parallels my journey with my 82 split dash GTV6 except yours doesn't look like the mechanicals were worked on by a half blind gorilla. I also got a shock when we I saw the state of the water jackets and head gaskets when we pulled the heads off and mine was running!

Suggest you pull the sump, clean it out and check the oil pump before you start it. We found with my car that the bores were a bit glazed, four good runs on the dyno sorted this.

I echo Aggie's comment, first GTV6 I can remember seeing with a straight front bumper, gold!

I have rust repairs to do on my white car also, windscreen surround has been repaired previously, I'm going to remove mine and have a look anyway.

Good stuff.

John
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 08:55:19 AM
John, it can be scary to open them up and see all the crap.  They will run in very poor condition it seems.  Cant imagine all the crap in thete helps heat transfer!  Wa water is extremely mineralised but dadly people still seem to top up with it rsther than use demineralised..such a simple thing that can ruin an engine very quickly. Agree. I will pull sump for peace of mind.

Luckily none of my bores are glazed or watermarked. They still have very visible cross hatching. Vary happy about that and once again supports mileage.

The heads are both off now and once again plenty of rubbish in water.  Exhaust valve on no4 was again a little rusty and overly tight. Also noted one of the head studs has been munted but will clean up.  Question is..how the hell did the nut come up to torque....
So once again the right decision to remove heads.  Today the head rebuilds will be specced.

Good one on tyres..I have advans on 2 other cars and love them. It will be toss it between Pirelli for orininality vs yoko for a sexy look and performance.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
Heres a question some may have experience with.  If the gtv6 heads are off...and I wanted to tickle the 2.5 busso, do people have experience with what the busso repsonds best to?  I can up yhe comp. A little with a shave..although this shortens the usable life of the heads.  Not sure if there are any deficiencies in the ports that should be addressed?  Cams...factory sufficient?  It is a road car primarily but not a daily.  If any sensibly priced hp can be released I may invesrigate while I have the chance.  I always run 98 so will look at leaning on the comp.  It would not be a full build. I am fond of revs but belive the 2.5 is borderline accepyable on down low torque so prefer not to impact that adversly.

Really just asking is there are any simple tricks the busso repsonds well to without getting carrried away. 
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on June 17, 2017, 11:04:13 AM
Hi Mike
Here is a  Youtube video clip which you and fellow forum member GG105 (SA Alfetta GTV6 3.0L) will give you the inspiration and drive when you are feeling down and question, what did I get myself into taking on this project.
Enjoy
1994 Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti DTM Sound Ė Accelerations, Downshifts & Fly Bys.
https://youtu.be/f1j5Jq8ILmY
Cheers
Bonno
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 11:50:22 AM
Haha..yes quite motivating but not in my league!

I've always liked the 155.  They look great.  When I need motivation I jump in this.  Not a 155 but the same guts 😀
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on June 17, 2017, 12:12:20 PM
Mike
Yes now that is an inspirational CAR, the Lancia Delta Integrale!! My Fiat X1/9 is a car I sold recently and was a good fun run about, but not in the same class. 
cheers
bonno.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on June 17, 2017, 12:17:31 PM
Mike, if you ever need someone to help give your toys an airing ...

A Delta Integrale has always been in my dream 10 car garage, right next to a Stratos.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
Airing it tommorow on the lancia club run.  Spare seat.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 12:42:18 PM
Always liked yhe x19. Great car..sadly my 2m frame is not conducive to x19 ownership!
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on June 17, 2017, 12:55:04 PM
Very kind offer Mike and I wish I could tag along - unfortunately I have to lay a concrete slab in my demolished bathroom!

Say g'day to Reg H-S if he's taking one of his multitude of machines out for a spin. His Fulvia is a joy to behold.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: GG105 on June 17, 2017, 03:31:47 PM
Mike on tweaking the 2.5. These little engines pull above their weight, are very torquey and feel like more than 160hp. My guy reckons a big limitation is the size of the intake plenum and their ability to get enough air in, this limits fuel input. Comp, porting and extractors help, but as everyone knows there's no substitute for capacity.....
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 03:45:50 PM
Ah yes...capacity.  True enough.  I've considered going for extra capacity..quad cam etc but have ultimatly decided that Ill save a big liter quad cam for my track car and focus on fettling the factories original intent rather than side stepping it.  So no literage increase on this one,  just a smidge up on compression and a properly built pair of heads. 

Good news today.  I've inspected the heads and they are in wxcellwnt condition. Valve stem seals are as new but or course will be replaced.  Seats will be redone,  valves are as new.  Water ways are corrosion free despite the huge buildup of crystaline junk. 

As can be seen its a good thing the passenger side head was removed as the valves have also seen some moisture which has resulted in the potential for a sticking valve with potentially unpleasant results.  Quite asside from that the coolant galleries and completly blocked in areas...would have led to uneven cooling and trpubled ownership..not what I am looking for!

Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 03:48:51 PM
Parts list has been put together so heads go off to Cilerbertie for machining on Monday.  They know their stuff when it comes to Alfas.

Now for some fun stuff....lets prep some cam covers!  Cant decide whether to crinkle paint black or simply bead blast and leave as factory intended...I personally love the black look as it makes the lettering pop.  Thoughts?
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Post by: bonno on June 17, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Hi Mick
Find attached a couple of photos that may help you decide. I am with you wrinckle black tappet covers, with either lettering natural finish or contrasting red as per photo GTV6 bling-1.
cheers
bonno
   
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Post by: Mike on June 17, 2017, 05:27:38 PM
More like this I was thinking for the cam cover. 

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Post by: bonno on June 17, 2017, 05:47:29 PM
Nice one Mike. Agree you need to bling the engine bay a bit and very hard to go past the wrinkle finish tappet covers, with the natural finish on the raised lettering is a matter of choice.
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Post by: Mike on June 18, 2017, 10:15:58 PM
Snuck off to the shed thisarvo and got started on bead blasting the cam covers.  To anyone doing this be sure to thoroughly wash them after to remove sand...it does not go well inside your fresh engine!

I dont have the worlds best sandblaster so it was slow going.  After bead blasting both I'll then hand file and grind casting any dags.  I then polish the lettering surface.  Then washing any oils with isopropyl  alchohol.  Then heat the covers to an even temp in the oven before painting the crinkle paint.  Then its just a matter of carefully removing the crinkle from the letterimg to reveal the pre prepared polished surface. Some post polishing is sometimes needed.

Thats how I do cam covers anyway!  Any other tips welcome.

Other than I could not help.myself so I cleaned up the front bumper and grill a bit.  Not bad.
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Post by: Mike on June 18, 2017, 10:20:34 PM
Here's an example of the last cam cover I did for my integrale.  If you want to see the full resto of the integrale you can swing over to 124turbo.com

https://t124.com/forum/forum/fiat-fans/fiat-fans-aa/14912-lancia-delta-integrale-evo-2-freshen-up


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Post by: four90s on June 19, 2017, 09:10:56 AM
Hi Mike,

Looking good. They are a great car and even better with the three litre in them.
Just asking the question. I've never seen the finned cam covers on a GTV6 unless they've been added; I always thought they all had the smooth cam covers. Are they the original ones?

Regards
Steve
Adelaide.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on June 19, 2017, 03:44:56 PM
Yep they are standard cam covers. Just later model gtv6.  I am not sure what year they changed but early ones were smooth.

Cheers
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Post by: martym00se72 on June 22, 2017, 06:11:08 PM
Black crinkle is a fine choice if I do say so myself... ;D
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Post by: Mike on June 22, 2017, 11:50:46 PM
Yep that looks nice.  I thinknthe plenum needs the flats cut back to polished alley also but otherwise....approved!  And maybe red spark plug leads.

Not too much to report other than heads are a tad loose on valve guides so am just doing new vlaves guides all round.  Safer.  Pic is post bead bast and pre valve guide replacement and seat cutting.  Head will be faced after guides are removed. Bit of pitting, nothing drastic.
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Post by: Repco Lad on July 05, 2017, 02:54:39 PM
One issue with polishing letters on cam covers is keeping them shiny over time

I was looking at crinkle finish, but it was recommended to me that I use standard automotive paint, polish the letters, then finish with a coat of clear coat

Comes up pretty well. This is 5+ years old

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Post by: Mike on July 13, 2017, 08:28:23 PM
That does look very good.  Crinkle finish can be a bugger to keep looking clean and new. Goos point.

Not much to report. Both heads are rebuilt.  More cleaning, removal of oil pressure tensioner, replace water pump, some belts hoses and gaskets....and a darn good flush!..oh...and a decision on cam cover finish...hmm.

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Post by: GG105 on July 15, 2017, 07:09:47 AM
I hydoblasted the plenum and valve covers on my 2.5. They look great, dont tarnish and are easy to keep clean.

See my Early GTV6 thread for photos.

John
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Post by: Mike on July 23, 2017, 08:25:58 AM
Back from holiday and looking forward to making progress on the old girl.  Decided cam covers will not be crinkle anything.  Insteas will polosh lettering and then clear coat.  Ill save crinklw for the quad cam I am putting in my racecar. Thanks for all the input, it helped with the decision!

Some of you may know I have been on the hi t for a an Alfetta sedan.  Heres a sneak peak of what I just picked up after years of looking.
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Post by: poohbah on July 23, 2017, 10:30:50 AM
Nice - what's its story Mike? Obviously hiding in a Victorian shed somewhere for a while.
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Post by: aggie57 on July 23, 2017, 10:32:10 AM
Back from holiday and looking forward to making progress on the old girl.  Decided cam covers will not be crinkle anything.  Insteas will polosh lettering and then clear coat.  Ill save crinklw for the quad cam I am putting in my racecar. Thanks for all the input, it helped with the decision!

Some of you may know I have been on the hi t for a an Alfetta sedan.  Heres a sneak peak of what I just picked up after years of looking.

👍👍
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Post by: Mike on July 23, 2017, 03:19:08 PM
Yes it has quite a story.  It's previous owner had sadly passed away, so I will be respectful with the details I put on the web.  Suffice to say it is a one owner car with 75,000 original miles.  It runs like an absolute dream, a real credit to the previous owner who made many small changes to improve little mechanical details.  The result is the most lovely Alfetta to drive.  Of course, after sitting for some 8years, bushes, brakes and clutch systems all need attending to, so after a short drive up and down the road with mates who helped pick it up, it is now receiving the attention it deserves.  My aim is to be very respectful to the car, keeping it in the condition it left the factory.  I would like to recover the now tired seats in leather, but all in good time.  Body wise it has crazed paint on the bonnet and roof and a couple of dings hear and there, minor stuff though.  Most importantly, it is incredibly rust free.

We made a road trip of it so it was quite the adventure, covering 1000 or so km's to pick it up.  It really is a timewarp.  The colour is AR 518.  Ruby red and after a wash, I love it.  I will ponder how far I go with paint, I would love to fully paint it and bring it back to the original condition, but am cautious, as I don't want to lose the patina and vibe of the car.

cheers!
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Post by: Mike on July 23, 2017, 04:00:31 PM
A few picks after my mate Dave has started to work his cleaning magic!
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Post by: Mike on July 23, 2017, 04:03:57 PM
And a couple more, after which this thread shall revert to GTV6 goodness!  If anyone does know this car, or its history in detail please pm me as I would like to piece together as much as I can.  Apparently it was serviced at Mile Miglia so I will have to give them a call also.  Perhaps it was purchased new from them also if they sold Alfas back in the day?
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Post by: bonno on July 23, 2017, 04:42:51 PM
Mike
She looks absolutely fantastic and with that new tan leather interior you propose on doing, should finish her off beautifully. 
bonno
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Post by: poohbah on July 23, 2017, 08:39:52 PM
A real little ripper, Mike. You are right, don't repaint, just do the mechanical and interior tidy up. I look forward to seeing her on the streets of Perth soon.
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Post by: aggie57 on July 24, 2017, 02:16:04 AM
That is one great pickup.  Seeing the drivers seat I can understand why you'd want that tidied up but my understanding is that these cars never had leather as a factory option.  It was vinyl (like this one) or cloth.

Oddly cloth was not an option in Australia until the 2000 models arrived in late '76. Even though it was available and commonly seen in the U.K.  You'd have thought with our weather they'd offer it.  Like the factory resisted sending white GTV6's at first but was happy to send black ones.  Go figure.
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Post by: bonno on July 24, 2017, 08:10:30 AM
Hi Mike
When you ready and decide on getting the seats done, the following link on suppliers of reproduction seat covers in either leather or vinyl might be useful. Even though the Alfetta sedan is not listed on their websites, I am sure they will be able to supply (just confirm via e-mail), with the cost of vinyl being about 1/3 the price of leather. I went through this exercise for my Alfetta GTV Recaro interior, but decided to have it done locally because when you take into account fitting, recovering door cards and exchange rate there was no saving to getting it all done locally. The only aspect to the whole exercise was finding an upholsterer that would do a good quality job and this did take some work, in particular recovering the recaro head rests.
http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=16802.msg96435#msg96435
cheers
bonno
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Post by: Mike on July 24, 2017, 10:01:57 PM
Thanks all.  I'll be sure to check out thw thread again when the time comes.  I had already read it.  I am aware the fetta did not get leather, an indulgance on my part.  I love the smell and done right I think will be nice. Perhaps I will get a driver seat sorted first.  If anyone has a good one let me know!
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Post by: Mike on July 24, 2017, 10:05:01 PM
Back on gtv6. Valve springs have been tested and are all within 2pound of spec so will be retained.  I was keen to test for peice of mind. Time for assembly.
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Post by: Paul Newby on July 26, 2017, 12:04:44 PM
Back to the Ruby Red Alfetta....  :)

Wow, what an original Alfetta, even has the original rivets in the front grille! It is obviously an early one has it has the central adjuster for the headlights (three in total and not two like later cars.) Is it a 6/74 Compliance with Weber carburettors? The early ones (anything before 12/74 Compliance) had that as well as the silver heater controls (not black), wooden steering wheel and an interior light positioned centrally above the rear window (check.)

How do I know this arcane stuff? Well I had a 6/75 Compliance first series Alfetta, which had none of the features unique to the early 74 models - later headlights, later heater controls, plastic steering wheel and Dellortos, but importantly still had the mph/km/h speedo, narrow grille and 10548 cams of the 1800 "S" prefixed engine (this all changed with the wide grille 1.8 that came out here in late 75.) My car also had the 1.8 badge on the bootlid, that Alfa guru Tony McKone said it shouldn't have had, but by mid 75 the Alfetta 1.6 had been introduced (in Europe) so I argued that it was probably correct.

I've only seen one Alfa (an Alfetta 2.0) in Ruby (Rubinca?) Rosso AR518 - it is a very nice colour and rare.

As for the seats, I would try and retrim/restore them in the original vinyl, but that's just my opinion...

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Post by: Mike on July 27, 2017, 12:35:10 AM
Hi.  Yes it is 8/74 compliance.  Colour is ar518. Rubinia met.  Ive not seen a 1.8ltr car im this colour ever and can not find one on line to compare.

It has the matched webers also. It runs so smooth its just amazing.  Factory Pioneer radio works perfectly although one headlight globe needs replacing...all other elecs work perfectly. I'm very pleased.  There are some spots to tidy up but considering its 43 yrs old she is doing very well. 

Say I notice the email we used to be able to send the vin to to confirm original build spec is not working.  Anyone know what it is now? Id like to confirm details.  Also if anyone is in vic and ia popping into milea miglia maybe they can dig out some history on her for me 😊.  Snap some screen shots of their computer system perhaps. 
Say can anyonw confirm if these were sold in aus with Michelin xzx tyres?  Its wearing tyres that were manufactured pre 2000 in either 23rd week 73, 83 or 93.
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Post by: Paul Newby on July 27, 2017, 02:18:31 PM
On the tyre front I'm not sure about the Michelin XZX being standard on new Alfettas. My 1974 2000 GT Veloce has a Michelin XAS 165x14 tyre on the spare and my old Alfetta GT had a Goodyear Supersteel 185/70x14 on its spare.

The holy grail for early Alfettas is a working clock....  :D
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Post by: Mike on July 27, 2017, 02:59:50 PM
Clock works!
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Post by: aggie57 on July 27, 2017, 04:51:42 PM
On the tyre front I'm not sure about the Michelin XZX being standard on new Alfettas. My 1974 2000 GT Veloce has a Michelin XAS 165x14 tyre on the spare and my old Alfetta GT had a Goodyear Supersteel 185/70x14 on its spare.

The holy grail for early Alfettas is a working clock....  :D

My '73 GTV has the same Paul, it's the original.  Still holding air 45 years after manufacture.

Mike - the understanding is that XZX was typically reserved for higher performance models like Ferrari and Alfa Montreal.
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Post by: Mike on July 28, 2017, 02:07:08 AM
Good point. I should check my spare.  Ferrari tyres hey? 😁
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Post by: aggie57 on July 28, 2017, 08:34:10 AM
Good point. I should check my spare.  Ferrari tyres hey? 😁

Ha!  At least you don't have the famously delaminating Pirelli CN36. I can hear the thump thump of one going even now!

Did you ever buy tyres from Tom Woolnough in Melbourne?  In the 80's he was the place most AROCA people used, a great club member sadly missed. He had a great supply of seconds from the local Dunlop factory.  Soft as hell and didn't last more than a couple of sprints but cheap and hardly ever actually round! 

Sorry, the brain got sidetracked.
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Post by: Paul Newby on July 28, 2017, 09:41:20 AM
On the tyre front I'm not sure about the Michelin XZX being standard on new Alfettas. My 1974 2000 GT Veloce has a Michelin XAS 165x14 tyre on the spare and my old Alfetta GT had a Goodyear Supersteel 185/70x14 on its spare.

The holy grail for early Alfettas is a working clock....  :D

My '73 GTV has the same Paul, it's the original.  Still holding air 45 years after manufacture.

Mike - the understanding is that XZX was typically reserved for higher performance models like Ferrari and Alfa Montreal.

I think you will find that the Michelin XZX was similar to the XAS, a friend that 165x15 XZX on his Flavia in the 90s.

The Ferraris et al had XWX 70 profile tyres, which I believe have been reintroduced by Michelin (with modern compounds) for their classis range.

I remember our family Volvo came with Michelin XVS 185/70714 as standard back in 1980. At one point he put on Pirelli CN36s because they were cheaper....

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Post by: poohbah on July 28, 2017, 09:55:28 AM
Quote
Say I notice the email we used to be able to send the vin to to confirm original build spec is not working

According to a recent poster, Centro Documentazione (or whatever its called) is now charging a largish fee to provide that information. Only came in after the AR museum re-opened to the public.
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Post by: aggie57 on July 28, 2017, 03:13:18 PM
On the tyre front I'm not sure about the Michelin XZX being standard on new Alfettas. My 1974 2000 GT Veloce has a Michelin XAS 165x14 tyre on the spare and my old Alfetta GT had a Goodyear Supersteel 185/70x14 on its spare.

The holy grail for early Alfettas is a working clock....  :D

My '73 GTV has the same Paul, it's the original.  Still holding air 45 years after manufacture.

Mike - the understanding is that XZX was typically reserved for higher performance models like Ferrari and Alfa Montreal.

I think you will find that the Michelin XZX was similar to the XAS, a friend that 165x15 XZX on his Flavia in the 90s.

The Ferraris et al had XWX 70 profile tyres, which I believe have been reintroduced by Michelin (with modern compounds) for their classis range.

I remember our family Volvo came with Michelin XVS 185/70714 as standard back in 1980. At one point he put on Pirelli CN36s because they were cheaper....

I apologize - that does ring true now you lay that out.
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Post by: Mike on July 28, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
Anyone have an idea how many sedans were sold into aus in 1974?  Be interesting to see a list of salea per month.  No doubt tricky to come by.
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Post by: Paul Newby on July 31, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
Anyone have an idea how many sedans were sold into aus in 1974?  Be interesting to see a list of salea per month.  No doubt tricky to come by.

It is a bit difficult to know. The Alfetta was road tested by the major magazines in December 74, so it was probably release around that time - I think the launch may have been at the Sydney Motor Show, which is usually October. I've seen press photos of the display (Metallic Olive Green) Alfetta in front of the Art Gallery of NSW. I'm sure the earliest Compliance I've seen for Alfettas is 6/74. I've seen a lot which were 12/74 Compliance and they probably sold well into 1975. My old 6/75 Compliance (first series) Alfetta is a rare bird - I've never seen another 1975 built first series Alfetta.

I think at that time Alfa Romeo Australia (ARA) were probably selling 800 to 1,000 cars a year. They were always restricted by quotas - they were always in the market to buy more and increase sales. Alfasuds would have been the volume seller for ARA, but the Alfettas were popular. I doubt that more than 200 would have actually been sold in 1974 but considerably more sold in 1975.
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Post by: Mike on July 31, 2017, 09:11:20 PM
Well I own 3 x74s and know where one olive green one is. Who owns the other 196? 😁
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Post by: Mike on July 31, 2017, 09:31:43 PM
Returning to our regular channel..heads cleaned and ready for assembly.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Paul Newby on August 01, 2017, 01:29:19 PM
Well I own 3 x74s and know where one olive green one is. Who owns the other 196? 😁

I remember wrecking a Le Mans Blue Alfetta back in the early 1990s. It had been cherished (when I first saw it on the road) and then it changed hands and moved to the seaside where it sat outside... A mate and I thought we could rescue it and we had it sent out to Tony McKone's workshop at Windsor - where we found it had a seized motor...  >:(  Plus the rust was taking hold so we "gave" our $750 investment to Mr McKone in lieu of storage costs. Those (perfect) Alfetta doors hung around there for years. (Mr McKone has a Pine Green 74 Alfetta btw.)

I still have an old rego document, so I can probably find the chassis number. Its original NSW rego (Dec 74) was HDK102 (still have the plates) - it came from Mildrens - there was an Alfasud that was HDK101 and a 2000 GTV that was, from memory HDK106, which were on the road in the early 90's. Mildren's must have registered a bundle of Alfas around that time...   :)

The Sydney Motor Show Olive Green Alfetta was owned for many years by the late Harry Lewis (AROCA NSW President and life member) and then bought by a former member who moved up the coast (Newcastle way) - that was about 20 years ago. Not sure of its whereabouts now. He also had what I believe was the original Lightburn Zeta press demonstrator 1964 Giulia Sprint GT that was road tested by Wheels magazine - it was in pretty average condition. Hopefully it is still around....

This is a long way removed from barnfind GTV6s...  :D
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Post by: Mike on August 25, 2017, 12:17:05 PM
Heads all done.  Now for a throurough engine bay clean and block flush.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: tpalfa on August 27, 2017, 12:33:03 PM
How much did it cost to get the heads done?
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Post by: Mike on August 27, 2017, 02:38:29 PM
One head needed a little weld.  New stems and seats. Faced.  Sub 1000 for shop work.  That does not include remove, install and pumps belts gaskets etc.  From what I hear one should budget 2 to 3k a head if not doing themselves. Of course it depends on what turns up.

Best to call a workshop, they will tell you going rates.

Found the passenger side block has been eaten away away locally and will require filling on the gasket face at the front inside face.  We will devcon the surface which is the area of half a 5 cent peice.  Was hiding under all the crystaline buildup.  Lovely.  Was close to pulling the block out on this one but feeling is this is perfectly sufficient.

Fuel tank is out for a flush.  Nice thick layer of varnish from years of sitting.  Think it protected the tank from rust!  Filter did its job...yuck.  haha
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Post by: Mike on September 02, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
Car booked in for Paint end sep!  Cant wait. In the mean time...74 sedan clean up! Dave has been working his magic!
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Post by: Mike on October 14, 2017, 01:19:23 AM
Car is now at the paint shop.  The plan was to paint as little as possible.  I wanted as much orig, Original paint to remain as possible.  But the painter rightly pointed out that red fades and as such, c the outcome would be compromised.  So the decision was made to paint her fully.  we removed the engine and all ancillaries in the engine bay,  All glass and trim will also be removed.  There were a couple of rusty brackets on the front passends passenger rail so these were removed and perfect ones removed from my spare shell.  very excited to see the final product.  Photos shortly... I need to resize them... wish the forum resized automatically!
I managed to source a NOS L H mirror metal cover to replace the weathered one on the vehicle as well as NOS indicator lenses and plastic Screws.  Also installed new master cylinders and slave cylinders... Things are coming along nicely.
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Post by: poohbah on October 14, 2017, 10:02:35 AM
Mike, Cilebertis have a white '79 Alfetta (manual with blue racing stripe!) waiting for you to rescue it... only $3k

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/osborne-park/cars-vans-utes/alfa-romeo-alfetta-sedan-2-0-1979/1161397200 (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/osborne-park/cars-vans-utes/alfa-romeo-alfetta-sedan-2-0-1979/1161397200)
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 14, 2017, 03:10:40 PM
Mike, Cilebertis have a white '79 Alfetta (manual with blue racing stripe!) waiting for you to rescue it... only $3k

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/osborne-park/cars-vans-utes/alfa-romeo-alfetta-sedan-2-0-1979/1161397200 (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/osborne-park/cars-vans-utes/alfa-romeo-alfetta-sedan-2-0-1979/1161397200)

Haha...no no no!
I'm fond of the early s1 sedans.  The are my weak spot!  The inn is full.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 14, 2017, 03:43:07 PM
A few pics from the painters.  Metal work has begun.  There are the usual spots to fix. No corners will be cut...Metal replacement and rust and thorough rust prevention for the future above an beyond factory efforts.  Do it once..do it right.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 14, 2017, 03:45:22 PM
Engine bay will get a fresh coat...remove some of the imperfections  caused by leaking brake master cylinder.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 14, 2017, 03:47:33 PM
I sourced new lower fender panels from Highwood Alfa.  30 dollars each well spent.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 14, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
I had a perfect hatch I could have used instead but decided this one is perfectly savable.  A small section will be made up in metal.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 14, 2017, 04:00:17 PM
The driver side lower window has been ignored for a period and this is the result.  Quite superficial with plenty of metal left but unsightly!  The original windscreen  will be carefully removed and this and anything else that reveals itself will be attended to.  Only now are gtv6s getting to a value where doing this kind of work is becoming economical I guess so many vehicles out there have had substandard touchups over time. 

I can't recall if I mentioned it, but when we removed the driver side cam cover we were created with a wheel nut in place of a head stud...Nice...amusingly the head stud resurfaced when the loom was pulled away from the firewall.  It's amazing what so called experts do to their unasuming customers...  we even found a 15mm long peice of half inch tube wedged in the water pump outlet..sideways of course so cooling flow would have been compromised.  The cam belt snapped after many years sitting which saw the owner have the heads rebuilt...this was shortly before the car was then laid up...luckily it did not do much work at all.  The owner recalled a noise from the rear at the time which saw him park it up..fearing a terminal clutch issue and having fallen on hard times.  It has turned out to be a shagged throw out bearing...would habe made quite a rumble.  With the owner spending most of the cars life overseas, the issues I am dealing with stem from a car that has sat discussed.  102000 original is and one owner are great, but there is work to be done to see her to her former glory.  The bones however are excellent and I'm thoroughly enjoying the process.

Stay tuned...who knows what we will find next....touch's a tree.
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Post by: bonno on October 14, 2017, 04:52:56 PM
Mike
 She is coming along nicely. Have you decided on whether to paint it in 2 pack oven baked or acrylic.
cheers
bonno
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Post by: Mike on October 15, 2017, 11:28:39 PM
I've gone for 2 pack. 
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Post by: bteoh on October 17, 2017, 02:28:13 PM
Hi Mike,
Progress looking good on the car  :)
Just wondering which bodyshop that you use in Perth? Good quality work at a reasonable price?

Cheers,
Brian
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 17, 2017, 02:40:16 PM
Hi Brian,

I'm using straightline2ten.  I will let you know if I am happy with the outcome.  So far they have been good on communication and are making good progress.  I would say their pricing is acceptable and is based on what kind of job you are hoping to achieve.  Fingers crossed for a good outcome.
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Post by: Mike on January 23, 2018, 04:05:25 PM
Progress so far
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Post by: Mike on January 23, 2018, 04:10:11 PM
And another. Should have her back next week to commence slow process of assembly...which will be slow as I habe been distracted and have not beadblasted all th3 parts I shouldd have by now!  You know what its like...cant put the old shitty part back on when the boy glistens!

Please with the work so far.
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Post by: Mike on January 27, 2018, 07:41:25 PM
First coat on! Will be rubbed back and then on with final coats.
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Post by: LukeC on January 28, 2018, 12:52:19 PM
That is VERY motivating for me to get a move on with my own project....
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Post by: bazzbazz on January 28, 2018, 03:51:33 PM
Two Plenums?
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Post by: LukeC on January 28, 2018, 06:32:49 PM
Most elegant way I could think of to increase the known plenum/throttle and air filter deficiency of GTA engines.

Sorry. should have created my own thread.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2018, 12:57:38 AM
Cam cover love(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/01b2c8e5f5862d5016e2eeec93f54849.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/2203163104c2bbc5304a59fa7fbfdd8d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/b3e7bc1f27607828d19fa5ddd7bf6a26.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/5d60cfb081bffe4d877cb14a344d4ac0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2018, 01:11:04 AM
Rust removed. Rust proofed, Painted and in process of reassembly.  Anyone got a lower aircon bracket from a v6 75? Installing the later rotary compressor but need the bracket.

So much effort hss gone into getting right.  Engine top end overhaul. Glass polished. Many NOS parts..last of etc.  Lots of help from lots of people.  She will be stunning.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/2a03c7091c56fa9bc8f70ed02bccb626.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/a2b75a1b6ecf2c4aa890e4db4bb1b08d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2018, 01:13:13 AM
Gotta love a pretty face!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/7493eaab39daac30b6f13c56bd524d35.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2018, 01:14:38 AM
Anyone got a lhs outer headlight NOS? If I beg?

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: LukeC on May 03, 2018, 09:41:11 AM
1:14 in the morning.... !

Mike, do you sleep?

I probably have the A/C mount you are after. Will look today.

P.S. Looking good. Am actually doing some work on my own ATM.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: hmd on May 03, 2018, 11:22:52 AM
1:14 in the morning.... !

Mike, do you sleep?



he's in WA so that would be 11:14.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: four90s on May 03, 2018, 05:17:39 PM
Hey Mike. Nice car.

If Luke doesn't have the bracket, I've probably got one. Yell if you need it.

Regards
Steve
Adelaide.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: carlo rossi on May 03, 2018, 05:54:31 PM
my mate used a ferrarri 360 throttle body
worked unbelievably
talk to Dna dave he has the car now
or smiley he used a bmw e36 1990 3,5 6cyl one
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on May 03, 2018, 06:31:46 PM
Re headlights Mike - I managed to get a replacement LHS outer for my 81 GTV from Oxford Spares in Leederville about a year ago.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2018, 11:13:21 PM
Thanks all!

Luke has sorted the bracket for me so big thank you there!  I chase up the head light tomorrow for sure. As for ferrari 360 tb..sounds interesting but not in line with my stock approach..and I know the car..I tried to buy it...bloody Dave..hes greedy :-).

Cam covers were finished last night.  Now engine can be oil pressure tested outside of car.  Exciting.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2018, 11:20:37 PM
Oh yes..there is a time difference so whilst I had an early one at 11.15...the previous night was closer to 2am.  Im getting old...cant do that dvery night anymore!
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 05, 2018, 12:53:23 AM
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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 14, 2018, 12:01:51 AM
So very close to being back on the road again!  Awaiting a fuel tank, brake proportioning valve, and need to sort out a heater box and bracket and line for aircon compressor.  Stock as a rock except better rotary compressor and a nice black cam cover!  Otherwise, she is as per factory...plus liberal rust prevention in every cavity!

Oh also need to decide on wheels but for now will restore the factory rims at a minimum and perhaps run with a spacer to fill the guards.

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: MattK on May 14, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
Just stunning Mike, what an inspiration.
I am about to start on a similar journey with my sadly neglected 1984 2.0 in Hobart:
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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 14, 2018, 06:41:11 PM
Good luck with your resto!  I found fidly little bits or rust in some expected and not so expected places.  Prices of 4 cylinder cars are prohibitive to ecconomocal restoration so if you plan to pay someone for bodywork and you are not connected to the car you have..its way cheaper to pick up a tidy example.

It can be done..Im just aaying you wont recover your costs.



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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on May 14, 2018, 07:17:35 PM
So looks like you found headlights Mike?
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 14, 2018, 08:22:18 PM
No I still need an outer lhs light.  I tried the mob you suggested. They said they have never ever stocked an Alfa gtv6 light.  9dd...perhaps you got it elsewhere?

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on May 14, 2018, 09:47:35 PM
Mine is a 2.0L (not that I imagine they'd be different to the V6). But I took the light in with me, and they hunted around to find a replacement. I presume then that either one or both were/are not factory. Regardless, it works.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 17, 2018, 11:44:21 PM
Ah that might explain it. They would have stocked a h4 no doubt. I am after a Carrello.  H4 fit other makes.  Ill find one eventually!  Appreciate ypur help though and any other leads others may have.

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on May 18, 2018, 09:59:52 AM
have you asked Cilebertis in Ozzie Park if they have them, or can source them? They've often come up with something for me after a bit of scrounging around out the back. Also I've recently joined a couple of excellent Alfa buying/selling groups on FB (links below) - if you post what you are after on there someone may be able help.

www.facebook.com/groups/1489348214704573/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/1489348214704573/)
www.facebook.com/groups/1121514337979368/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/1121514337979368/)
www.facebook.com/groups/717397171735512/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/717397171735512/)
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on May 19, 2018, 12:44:35 AM
Yep tried Cilis.  No luck..they sold their last set a few months before...

Thanks for the facebook links.  Ill keep an eye out!

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on May 19, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
Here's another FB group you might like. No good for parts, but these guys will love your work. I think it originated in Poland.

www.facebook.com/groups/717052455016668/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/717052455016668/)
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 09, 2018, 10:56:54 AM
Out under her own steam!  So much done, quite a few little detail things to go but the list is now much shorter. Driven out of the shed and yet to see water she is a bit dusty and needs a detail and polish but all in good time.  More stuff to do yet.

Fuel system: tank replaced, 15 years of sitting left lots of gum in the tank which I was not happy with, the tanks are well baffled and properly cleaning them is chalenging.  An excellent replacement tank was instead found, free of todays gummy fuel buildups.  New fuel pump, filter, all flexible hose and clamps etc replaced.

Brake and clutch: Brake master, slave and proportioning valve all replaced as precaution. Brakes have bled up nicely.  Clutch master and slave replaced.

Glass has been polished, very happy with the results.

The fully rebuilt prop shaft has paid off with beautifull balance.

Speakers cones replaced..originals has done their dash!

New alarm system installed. Now just have to wave the key near the column lock to disable which is kinda cool.

Factory wheels are being restored, should have those back next week.

This week Im on to underbody detailing.

Next job is installing the uprated air con. system.  Ive tried hard to keep her original in every detail but feel that new r134a air compressor and uprated condensor are warranted..if you have an Alfa and prefer not to drive it in the wet..then you would probably appreciate driving it in out hot summers...in comfort! 

Looking for a set of nos Seima side repeaters and a perfect bonnet tea tray should anyone have one they would be willing to seperate with.


Slowly but surely she is coming together.
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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on July 09, 2018, 11:24:06 AM
Looks superb Mike, I'm very jealous. Incidentally, I just pulled the non-functioning compressor out of my GTV. Never worked anyway - windows down and sunroof open will just have to do.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 09, 2018, 09:22:26 PM
This gtv6 came with the reciprocating compressor rather than rotary.  I have a similar setup in my 3.2 quad cam gtv6 and it has excellent air con.  Great in a Perth summer!


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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: V AR 164 on July 10, 2018, 01:07:00 AM
Looks sooo good! Great to see a restoration done right.

Andrew.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on July 10, 2018, 05:49:24 PM
Hi Mike
Been following this thread on the restoration/refresh of your Alfetta GTV6 and commend you on first class job in bringing her back to as new condition and keeping us up to date with her progress over the 12 month period. I would imagine that you canít wait until she is finally finished and on the road to enjoy the fruits of your hard earned work.
cheers
Bonno
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 13, 2018, 12:08:57 AM
Thanks guys,  its certainly been an involved resto.  Lots of people involved along the way who know who they are.

Clutch housing bearings now replaced..just wish we had remembered to do it when the prop shaft was out the first time!

Over the last couple of days Ive been chipping away..somewhat literally, at the underbody.  Degreased..sanded...rust converted...primer...light sand and top coats. No fast way to do this really. Relaxing enough though!

After some searching I also found a repair kit from permatex to touch up the front windscreen aerial where there are a couple of small (1 to 2) mm sections of missing copper.  About $30 for the kit, I'll let people know how I go on that one.  The kit is meant for the rear demister but other than a narrower copper track, the approqch should be the same.

195 60 R15's go on the refurbished wheels next week, still cant decide between Pirelli, Bridgestone, Michelin in that size.

Still looking for a heater box if somone has a spare, also a bonnet tea tray in as new condition.

Cheers
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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: four90s on July 13, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
Mike, I think I've got a heater box somewhere.

I'll have a look and let you know.

Steve
Adelaide.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 13, 2018, 05:26:10 PM
Thanks Steve, that would be excellent.

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 21, 2018, 03:14:37 PM
Wheels painted and tyres on this morning.  I had the spare refurbed and clad in Pirelli P6 also. A little. 

Clutch bearings in the housing replaced and decided to replace clutch while it was appart along with throw out bearing.  Also noted a the isostatic linkage had a damaged nylon cup so replaced it.  Is the list getting shorter or longer?!

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 21, 2018, 03:16:11 PM
Boot was split also so on with a new one.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180721/62487d93833c586565473d33b10e2157.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: four90s on July 22, 2018, 09:30:55 AM
Hi Mike,

I can't help with the heater box. I thought I still had a complete one, but I must have sold it.

Is there something specific you need as I have a few bits and pieces for them still.

Regards
Steve
Adelaide.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 22, 2018, 10:35:24 AM
I ned the plastic housing itself.

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: four90s on July 22, 2018, 10:07:25 PM
Belay that.

I just found the one I was thinking of, but I have pulled it down to get something.
You just need the casing? Nothing else?

Pm me your address and I'll send it over.

Regards
Steve
Adelaide.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 23, 2018, 12:48:16 AM
Fantastic, thanks!

Some progress on plenum. Crinkle paint is still wet so pre wrinkle effect. I'll block back the thinner lines as masking them is not possible. 

4 hours of sanding to get to this...always takes longer than I recall!  I've gone for more of a satin look this time, think it will suit. I'll clear cot them for ease of maintenance.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180722/94daac1f45addaa4c3c8e13a47f96bc8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180722/c1936a63f05a26d9353cdd1de02b6f21.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180722/b9717b4c743ad20cd9fda008cb7c9dfb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180722/47c4de3864ccf0319c3bc20d3700205d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 24, 2018, 10:32:33 AM
Almost there.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180724/e0dc5b70cd0cca32b50012e90b37a71c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on July 31, 2018, 10:22:15 PM
Sorted. 

Next to install and overhaul rear callipers..of course they are leaking!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180731/9f5ff9022fae915e0d077760d7420c93.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on August 03, 2018, 08:00:49 PM
Ignore the torch!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/0287e9b0e001864f7751a5a27e85f0df.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on August 06, 2018, 12:53:06 AM
Couple more.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180805/59e27062342d60b349f0dfa16e743e1b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180805/a346d4056cba6af9db9e928fa3e383ff.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bteoh on August 06, 2018, 12:47:27 PM
Car looks fantastic Mike :)
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on August 06, 2018, 04:32:02 PM
Looking brilliant Mike. BTW - was that your 2.0L red GTV I saw in Cileberti's last week?

Whose-ever it was, it was stunning.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: GR-124 on August 08, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
Great Job Mike, thanks for sharing the ride
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on August 11, 2018, 11:07:52 AM
Cheers all.

No not my red gtv at Cillis.  Would have liked to have seen it though, Rare sight now.

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Bufa on August 19, 2018, 05:06:54 PM
Looks superb. When will you get it on the road? I also have a GTV6 which is just about at the end of a rust removal and paint job and I am wondering whether to replace the old rough bonnet liner or leave it without one as yours looks great without one. I do wonder whether without one heat may damage the bonnet? What are you planning to do?
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on August 19, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
Thanks.  I could put it on the road now but there are still things I want to tidy up before I do.  Plan was always to restore her and sell. Might have got too attached though!

I don't think the bonnet liner will have a big impart on paint. More likely it just keeps some engine noise down.  Better with it on of course, bit Im sure its fine withought.

I plan to put mine back on.  It has been removed and washed.

I'm also working on this...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/44f2108b3ca81aa591e4a9b7ddb549c5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/23e7e07f45e550a5e9f0448e29c45f21.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bazzbazz on August 20, 2018, 08:51:35 AM
You seem to have way too much free time on your hands. Gorgeous work.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on August 26, 2018, 10:37:30 PM
Happy with the outcome. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180826/36cbe50e9c913461c52003e48c9125ba.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180826/bdd2147a15daf2ce2239580004e306f5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180826/4b4f79396e7f8863812e5a88043ad6be.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on August 27, 2018, 01:57:09 AM
Superb Mike. Those Integrale rims look so good on the 116.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on August 27, 2018, 11:58:09 PM
And being magnesium alloy,  light to boot! Ive missed driving her.

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: bonno on September 05, 2018, 07:53:57 PM
Hi Mike
The red Alfetta GTV6 is coming along just beautifully and your attention to detail in particular on the wrinkle finish parts is superb. I take it that the transaxle is in good condition, as no mention of O/H or replacement of clutch assembly has been made. The reason I say this is that I am shortly embarking on complete O/H of transaxle and clutch assembly as the dreaded 2nd gear synchro and transaxle wind is quite annoying and in fact a concern when taking her on long trips. By the way the white Alfetta GTV6 is also a stunner.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on September 28, 2018, 12:19:22 AM
Hi Bonno,

Given I had not driven the car it was hard to say if the box was in good condition. However, I stripped the car once again as I found things in the paint I wanted corrected. So I took the opportunity to inspect the box.  So far the isostatic link has been replaced as the sheath dissintegrated upon removal. The diff mount has been replaced. Ive ordered a second gear syncro from Highwood Alfa in the UK as I assume it will benefit from replacement.  Now to pull it appart and take a look inside.

While the box is out I've decided to paint under the car also. Gee I hope I get to drive it one day...🤔
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 28, 2018, 03:08:28 PM
Paint corrections complete. Gearbox 2nd gear synchro and seals purchased. Better safe than sorry on synchro was the view. 
Popped the stock wheels on which have been restored. Hard to get a feel for it was hen the box is out as it sits s bit high.  Im thinking I will probably lower her a little but would like to see how it drives first before doing that.  Also I note the stock rims sit in quite a lot...may space them out a little. Im going to sneak the Speedlines on also for some fun.
Anyway.. its coming together..just slowly.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181028/eae9c255b551103406f603345bca6fcd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181028/01e93c6d97a6570311066aa16a410a69.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181028/c7ce6a578c73fc926ff4833f4f36cdd1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181028/3cf1c7fbc6bb346f554d6201be18fc2b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: poohbah on October 28, 2018, 03:33:09 PM
That looks like its on the US ride height setting Mike.
Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 28, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
Does rather.  Stock Aus, just minus a transaxle to keep the bum down.  Don't think I'll be able to live with it that high.

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Title: Re: Barnfind GTV6...ok shed find
Post by: Mike on October 29, 2018, 12:14:57 AM
Baby steps todsy. Wheel nuts and center caps on.  Also machined up a bush for the 308 but thats another story!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181028/64a21009163a06193cbc2878b8d9a759.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181028/20114542bbe26c835c5d230e546ef3bf.jpg)

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