Hey guys.
Bought a Brera late last week and safe to say I'm in love with it!!!!
Only thing is there is no way for me to connect my phone.
Was wondering if it would be possible to connect a Bluetooth adaptor to the back AUX-In of the head unit and splice into the head units power to run the adaptor.
Reason being is, I don't want to change the stock head unit and I don't want to have cables in the cabin...I.e. Using an fm transmitter.
If that can't be done is there any other way??
Cheers
G'day alfajoe,
Are you 100% certain the Brera dosent support Bluetooth / "blueandme"?
I have a 2008/2009 159Ti. The 159 and the Brera seem to share the same owners manual. The 159 supports Bluetooth hands free phone functionality.
Is there a "phone" button on the steering wheel?
There is a phone button on the steering wheel but it doesn't do anything.
And if I was to get a blue and me adaptor apparently from what i read it doesn't work with iPhone
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Has anyone done something similar to this or had any ideas
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Hi alfajoe,
Go to blueandme.net and have a bit of a poke around. Your Bluetooth functionality may have been wiped or corrupted during a previously unsuccessful update.
Basically you download the update on to a clean usb then plug it into the car usb port. Turn on the ignition but do not start engine. Should perform an update in 2 - 3 minutes.
Failing that you could take the car to a dealer or repairer that can perform a firmware update or restore. Cant comment re iPhone but blueandme works most of the time with my Samsung
I got the bluetooth phone system working with my iphone 6 on our '08 Brera without too much pain. There's a handy little 'quick guide' in the manual. Let me know if you need it scanned. I'll be attempting the firmware update when I have a few spare minutes, because that should get USB connected iphone/ipod connectivity for music etc, which seems to be missing at present.
Quote from: Alfa2 on September 05, 2016, 05:24:38 PM
I got the bluetooth phone system working with my iphone 6 on our '08 Brera without too much pain. There's a handy little 'quick guide' in the manual. Let me know if you need it scanned. I'll be attempting the firmware update when I have a few spare minutes, because that should get USB connected iphone/ipod connectivity for music etc, which seems to be missing at present.
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Hey alfajoe,
congrats to your Brera purchase.
I have recently also got a 2009 Brera (Spider) and had to go through a three step procedure to update the Blue&Me firmware to its latest version, which is 5.6. I am using it with iPhone 4S and I also needed to purchase the Blue&Me USB dongle adapter, otherwise the iPhone won't charge on the USB port, and MediaPlayer is not enabled.
I can use the iPhone for handsfree calling, listen to streaming music or music media from iPhone and also use Google and Tomtom GPS software on phone, the Bluetooth system in the car takes care of fading the various audio signals in and out as appropriate.
The http://www.blueandme.net website is a painful Flash website, so only use with a PC to get the needed files. First you need to download the Configurator, put it on a USB memory stick, plug into car and run it (follow their PDF instructions to the letter!). Then upload what their configurator dumped from the car onto your USB stick to their website, that will tell you then which version you have in your car.
My Brera was at version 5.0 and needed two update steps to 5.5 and then to 5.6 (no direct update to 5.6 possible), you need to go through the intermediate step. Each update step comes with its own PDF, they are different in contents and need to be followed carefully!
You will also need to get the Blue@Me USB dongle (not cheap, from memory around $100 from a UK seller) and your Brera will be right up there with late model cars in terms of communications features.
There is one odd 'feature': the Blue&Me USB socket is only powered when ignition is on, so in accessories mode, e.g. radio on but ignition off, the iPhone won't charge and the MediaPlayer is not available. Once ignition is on, the MediaPlayer takes over from the radio and iPhone charges.
Hope this helps!
Quote from: Helmerson on August 15, 2017, 05:07:36 PM
Hey alfajoe,
congrats to your Brera purchase.
I have recently also got a 2009 Brera (Spider) and had to go through a three step procedure to update the Blue&Me firmware to its latest version, which is 5.6. I am using it with iPhone 4S and I also needed to purchase the Blue&Me USB dongle adapter, otherwise the iPhone won't charge on the USB port, and MediaPlayer is not enabled.
I can use the iPhone for handsfree calling, listen to streaming music or music media from iPhone and also use Google and Tomtom GPS software on phone, the Bluetooth system in the car takes care of fading the various audio signals in and out as appropriate.
The http://www.blueandme.net website is a painful Flash website, so only use with a PC to get the needed files. First you need to download the Configurator, put it on a USB memory stick, plug into car and run it (follow their PDF instructions to the letter!). Then upload what their configurator dumped from the car onto your USB stick to their website, that will tell you then which version you have in your car.
My Brera was at version 5.0 and needed two update steps to 5.5 and then to 5.6 (no direct update to 5.6 possible), you need to go through the intermediate step. Each update step comes with its own PDF, they are different in contents and need to be followed carefully!
You will also need to get the Blue@Me USB dongle (not cheap, from memory around $100 from a UK seller) and your Brera will be right up there with late model cars in terms of communications features.
There is one odd 'feature': the Blue&Me USB socket is only powered when ignition is on, so in accessories mode, e.g. radio on but ignition off, the iPhone won't charge and the MediaPlayer is not available. Once ignition is on, the MediaPlayer takes over from the radio and iPhone charges.
Hope this helps!
How did you get music to stream from your iPhone to B&M? I thought it was just for calls as it's missing A2D2 for music streaming? Unless you're using that app that using calls for music that ends up an inferior sound?
Sorry if someone already posted... but I installed this: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bluetooth-USB-SD-AUX-Adapter-Car-Kit-Alfa-Romeo-147-156-159-Brera-GT-Spider-Mito/222410317223?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
It works a treat. If you need tips to install let me know... Can be easy, can be tricky.
But sound quality playing my Apple Music over bluetooth is incredible. Crystal clear and loud - perfect for the Bose system in my Brera... the subwoofer punches unlike it had before.
Voice navigation from your apps and calls are also loud and clear.
Steering wheel controls also capable (right side only). Works a treat.
To Skypilot.
You new device sounds like it would fix my previously posted, pain-in-the-arse issue, which I've copied below. What do you do with that device, please? I mean do you just plug it in to the USB port or what? I think for $90- it would be worth a try, cheaper than changing to a Honda at least :)
"Not sure if this issue is related to my previous Media Player post. This problem has arisen twice and much worse the the second time today. It occurs during the making of a phone call out, through the BT system from my iPhone 6s.. In the middle of the call an absolutely deafening noise is produced through the cars speakers, so loud that you have to get out of the car! On the first occasion cancelling the call stopped the noise. Today nothing, including turning off the radio, ac etc and stopping the engine, removing the key, would stop the noise. Disconnecting the battery eventually did the trick!
Never encountered anything remotely similar in my life. Does anyone have a clue if this is related to the latest iPhone update?"
Thanks Jim
Quote from: JimB on January 04, 2018, 06:51:23 AM
To Skypilot.
You new device sounds like it would fix my previously posted, pain-in-the-arse issue, which I've copied below. What do you do with that device, please? I mean do you just plug it in to the USB port or what? I think for $90- it would be worth a try, cheaper than changing to a Honda at least :)
"Not sure if this issue is related to my previous Media Player post. This problem has arisen twice and much worse the the second time today. It occurs during the making of a phone call out, through the BT system from my iPhone 6s.. In the middle of the call an absolutely deafening noise is produced through the cars speakers, so loud that you have to get out of the car! On the first occasion cancelling the call stopped the noise. Today nothing, including turning off the radio, ac etc and stopping the engine, removing the key, would stop the noise. Disconnecting the battery eventually did the trick!
Never encountered anything remotely similar in my life. Does anyone have a clue if this is related to the latest iPhone update?"
Thanks Jim
Hi Jim
If you buy the bluetooth module, you'll need to install it by plugging the wires into the CD Changer ports behind the radio... which means you need to pull out the radio. It won't work by just connecting it to the USB in your glovebox.
Are you in Sydney? I can help you with this if you're not confident.
Thanks,
John
Thanks John, however I'm in Adel. I have a radio installer contact so it will be OK. Does this installation effect the in-dash CD player or is it just a changer that won't work? My car only has the standard in-dash unit. Jim
Quote from: JimB on January 04, 2018, 07:31:14 AM
Thanks John, however I'm in Adel. I have a radio installer contact so it will be OK. Does this installation effect the in-dash CD player or is it just a changer that won't work? My car only has the standard in-dash unit. Jim
Won't affect the single CD or radio. It will just disable your CD Changer if you have one as it'll replace the plug-in at the back of the radio.
The black box you'll see behind the radio when you take it out is the original Bluetooth module. You can take this out so you have somewhere to place the new Bluetooth module from eBay. But note you won't be able to access the USB and 3.5mm input on the new module once you put the radio back, unless you run extension leads out (such as under the dash/steering wheel area) - this is quite tricky as it's very hard to run wires through the available gaps (just like trying to run wires behind walls in your house!).
Once installed you'll be very happy. It'll bring the car to 2018 with the same functionality as most cars without that annoying sound.
Thanks so much. John
Best objective review I've found yet of such devices - thanks. I'm convinced to try one in a 147.
Only one question, and it's not a deal breaker if unknown - does it have the usual restrictions of ten or so MP3s to a folder with Android devices? (I'm presuming you can page through the folders using the steering wheel controls and each displays as a "CD".) We would be using an older Samsung as a media device, not something from Fruit Inc at this stage.
Hi All, further on the suitability of this adapter. I've taken my car to the radio Guru today. Sadly my 159 JTS Ti 2.2l manual has a single Din unit i.e. no CD changer connection, so the adapter under discussion won't connect. I've sent a query to the vendors, however have now practically lost interest as Ebay prevents me from directly contacting them to actually discuss the issue. Despite the extra cost I'm now inclined to replace the OEM sound system with perhaps an Alpine unit. I have one of these in another vehicle and they are perfect, no AR temprementalities at all. Jim
Quote from: Citroënbender on January 04, 2018, 10:16:44 AM
Best objective review I've found yet of such devices - thanks. I'm convinced to try one in a 147.
Only one question, and it's not a deal breaker if unknown - does it have the usual restrictions of ten or so MP3s to a folder with Android devices? (I'm presuming you can page through the folders using the steering wheel controls and each displays as a "CD".) We would be using an older Samsung as a media device, not something from Fruit Inc at this stage.
If you're talking about the ebay bluetooth for $90, unfortunately no it doesn't organise by folders as such. You can still use steering wheel control to change music, but you can't scroll through folders or playlists. You would need to just do that directly on your phone. The reason is simple... The stock radio display is very simple and 10 yr old tech, so it would be complex to show layers of info.
The main thing is that the sound output is excellent. Very high definition and no hiss or white noise etc. Making and receiving calls is also excellent, as is the Mic.
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Quote from: JimB on January 04, 2018, 10:40:27 PM
Hi All, further on the suitability of this adapter. I've taken my car to the radio Guru today. Sadly my 159 JTS Ti 2.2l manual has a single Din unit i.e. no CD changer connection, so the adapter under discussion won't connect. I've sent a query to the vendors, however have now practically lost interest as Ebay prevents me from directly contacting them to actually discuss the issue. Despite the extra cost I'm now inclined to replace the OEM sound system with perhaps an Alpine unit. I have one of these in another vehicle and they are perfect, no AR temprementalities at all. Jim
That's sad to hear as it would have been a cheap Bluetooth conversion!
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That's surprising about no receptacle. I had a look at the 159 head units on Fleabay (UK) and while a number are single DIN behind the double-DIN fascia, they seemed mostly to have the correct fitting to suit.
For example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152827041851
Skypilot, thanks for the clarification on the adaptor's capabilities. Still sounds a good thing.
I've ordered one of these units as discussed, hoping it arrives this week. My dearest person is dreaming of CDs that don't skip when fanging along the rubbish roads, so - fingers crossed - this will resolve such issues.
An install question for Skypilot (well, two actually).
1. Did you link the black wires with M&F bullet connectors?
2. What DIP switch configuration did you end up with?
Can't get it to stream Android audio over Bluetooth, calls are OK but needed to put volume way up in each case.
Does it support Bluetooth ADP2?? .. this is the protocol used to stream music.
ADP2 protocol was added later. The original BlueTooth only supported calls, simple files exchange etc..
In my GQV the (Alfa)BlueTooth adaptor only supports calls - no ADP2.
I added a second BlueTooth adaptor (A$5.72./ ex ebay HK) that supports ADP2 to the Aux in on the head unit to allow streaming audio from the phone/ipad etc.
My phone is happy to support two Bluetooth connections at once (send phone/Siri to the car, sends all streaming audio/map directions/video etc to the head unit)
All integrated and comes out the speakers (phone prioritises calls and Siri)
Hi Craig,
The advert alleges it supports ADP2, there was confusion galore when it would preferentially pair with my iPhail over her Android - despite the latter being plugged in to the 3.5mm input... And yes, my handset automatically would set itself to the "Music" setting with handsfree (the little headphone icon at top RHS of the screen) so I presume it recognised compatibility there.
If I unpaired my phone the subwoofer dropped out. That was hard to understand, too. One great shortcoming (to me) is no pairing code!
Hi John and All,
I purchased a 3.2 Brera yesterday. I love it !
Already though I have noticed these bluetooth issues as listed on the forum by many others ( mega noise through speakers etc)
May I please take you up on your kind offer for help ? I am in Sydney.
My number is 0418961099 or please pass on your number and I will call you.
Thanks so much,
Frank .