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Title: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: alfagtv58 on March 14, 2013, 10:45:15 AM
This year Queensland!  8)

Where: QLD Raceway - Sprint Circuit.
When: 10/11 August 2013.

See attached for more details.

Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Enforcer on March 22, 2013, 01:46:19 PM
Yes, and it looks like it could be a stampede... book your room and then enter by transferring $280 to the VRA Bank account with your name in the reference field:

Account Name:        Veloce Racing Association Inc.
Bank:                          ANZ
BSB:                           012 055
Account number:        252147076

If you only run one event this year, make this the one AASA and CAMS licences accepted.

Regds
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: magraith on May 09, 2013, 10:00:19 PM
G'day Guys,

Is there likely to be practice on the Friday?

Matt.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: giulia_veloce on May 10, 2013, 07:41:53 AM
You dont need practice Matt
You can learn the track on Sat + Sun.
I will do the practice on the Friday so I can keep up with your taillights= hopefully.

There is usually practice at most circuits on the Friday for most major race meetings.
Dont let practice get in the way of food,chats.etc

Time for John Hollywood  P to get new tyres,,cause I need his old ones.
His last ones lasted me many race meetings ,,from Alfa Island in 2010,3 Easten Creeks.Winton East Coast Challenge and a few Wakefields.
Bugger changeing tyres,,I will just take the whole car.

If the 75 lasts this Qld event,,,Bill  Enforcer + I are going to double enter it at the Winton 6hr.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: magraith on May 10, 2013, 10:09:50 PM
No "short back and sides" this time Robert. 

Can you fit another side mirror to my car so I can see you coming through?
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: giulia_veloce on May 11, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
After I dyno your car next week,,i will be chasing your tail lights Matt
Not good when customer cars are faster than your own,but there are many reasons for this.
As Billy says about the 75= If you put new tyres and add some HP to that standard engine,we are all in trouble.
At the moment and a long time ahead= add fuel + customers old tyres (John hollywood P) ,and Robbie is happy.
Funny vid= Short back n sides
Maybe you should put that vid on here for all to see.
I must have watched it about 100 times by now.
Anyway,Veloce raceing is fun
When the fun stops= find a Pub
I havent found a Pub yet= still dont drink.
Bring on Qld raceway in August.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: magraith on May 13, 2013, 09:37:48 PM
Rob,

"Short Back and Sides" has had loads of views?  Are they all you?  Fairly busy start for the Rookie! Loads to learn.

Clip below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-v5pwZjDU

See you in August.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Neil Choi on May 13, 2013, 09:47:56 PM
Excuse my ignorance, can someone with knowledge explain the Sud's Sudden Auto Turning System came on at turn 2.

Waiting to hear with enlightenment.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Neil Choi on May 13, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
Torque steer?  Is it?

I have never driven a Sud.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: giulia_veloce on May 13, 2013, 10:02:06 PM
Hey Neil

Cant tell you  here why it did it cause if he fixes it,,he will go faster than you
pm sent
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: giulia_veloce on May 15, 2013, 07:55:07 AM
Just watched the start of the race another 5 times this morning,
Gets me in the work mood.

Robert
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Spada on May 15, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
Hi Matt,

That clip has become part of VRA folklore. As the new kid, I have been told about it numerous times by those that were in attendance (no names but no prizes for guessing ;) who they are).

Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: alfa duk on June 17, 2013, 05:14:47 PM
Guys, been a bit quiet on this topic considering it is the major Alfa race this year. With 20+ already paid up, should be a great weekend. Duk
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: hammer on June 17, 2013, 08:42:39 PM
Yeah Duk, can't wait to catch up with you cockroaches. I've entered the Alfasud Sprint chase car. It'll be the slowest car there but I plan to emulate that great Aussie sporting success story Stephen Bradbury.

In all honesty though, the sprint's off to the suspension shop next week for a new set of rear springs and a bit of ride height adjusting to hopefully pull out a bit of his nasty understeer. That way I should only have to touch the brakes twice per lap on the QR sprint circuit. You need all the momentum you can carry when you have all of 90hp!

See you boys in August. Let the cane toads loose!!
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Evan Bottcher on June 17, 2013, 10:57:38 PM
Wish I could be there this year, but too many excuses.  I had an absolute blast last year, and really do plan to do another ECC as soon as I can.  Who's going up from Vic?
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: alfagtv58 on June 17, 2013, 11:39:10 PM
Who's going up from Vic?

Where is the tumbleweed emoticon?
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: MD on June 30, 2013, 08:34:23 AM
I was a spectator at the 2007 event and shot some video that now lives on You Tube. Thoroughly enjoyed admiring all the cars in the "garage" too and chatting with various teams to get some background. I very much look forward  to doing it all over again as I am sure the participants are too.

This year I was hoping to be an entrant and let some else to the video but having studied the entry prescriptions,  I find that my car is not eligible owing to all its modifications. A major disappointment.

What I have trouble understanding is that the car that won the 2007 event is now ineligible to enter. Can some explain the reasoning behind these changes please.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Enforcer on July 01, 2013, 06:26:12 PM
MD, the VRA eligibility rules have not changed substantially since 2005. Is your car the ex Andrew Wilson GTV Twin Spark. If so it was Grandfathered into the category as an existing car and can run provided it is substantially as it was when originally raced and is on the correct rubber.. please message me if you would like further details...

Love to see you there.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: MD on July 01, 2013, 08:18:01 PM
Enforcer, thanks for your response.
No, I am not the owner of that car. It is now in the hands of Mark Jackson who I am sure is well known to you. My intended car is the one described in this topic set on this Forum:
http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=7875.45 (http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=7875.45)
I have just read over your rules (2008) which basically tells me that I am screwed.By the time this event is scheduled to run, it should have a TS race motor, it already has 16"x8" rims and cannot operate on less than 16's owing to brake and front end mods. It also requires 50% aspect tyres or less and not to mention that there isn't a friggin original thing on it so to speak. ;D
I just love this event and would dearly love to see a bit more flexibility considered by your committee at an appropriate time.

What I mean by this is taking a leaf out of the old Bathurst races where they had mixed classes running at the same time. In this instance, I am suggesting that two classes are created to run at the same time.1 Rule conforming 2 Rule non-conforming. The absolute non-negotiable rule is that ALL vehicles pass safety scrutineering.
I think the field would be bigger but track booking fees would be more affordable and at the end of the day a lot more guys would have a ball and performance creativity would flourish.

Notwithstanding any of the above, I want to congratulate all involved in getting these events rolling in the first place so don't take my criticism to heart. A little friendly discussion is always good for promoting the event and I am all for that.

I think I will start polishing up that long lens... ;D
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Enforcer on July 01, 2013, 09:12:58 PM
MD,

The scenario you describe re the classes was tried in NSW before these rules were developed, in fact it was why these rules were developed. The reasoning is that the category of car with the most potential entrants needs to be competitive for race wins or the category will continually fail, which it continually did. The current category with the most potential Alfa competitors is Historic Group S. You don't have to have an historic car but they are the benchmark performance wise. Unfortunately it has been found in the past that relaxing eligibility rules upsets more people than it satisfies, particularly when the majority of competitors have spent big money to build cars to strict logbook requirements that do not allow major modifications.
 
I hope this explains the philosophy and history behind the current arrangements.

Regds

Bill
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: alfagtv58 on August 09, 2013, 11:47:37 AM
Sitting in my office staring outside at the cold wet miserable Melbourne day and wishing I was currently racing a car in QLD with my mates.  :(
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: MD on August 09, 2013, 12:10:10 PM
alfagtv58

That sounds way too depressing so I tell what I will do. How about I deputies for you and rock up both days and promise not to enjoy it too much.  ;D

If my car would comply I would enjoy it a lot more. So close yet so far. (we have something in common  :) )
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Nate Dog on August 09, 2013, 12:17:10 PM
alfagtv58


just for you bud

Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: ItalCarGuy on August 09, 2013, 12:22:41 PM
The weather is pretty amazing up here at the moment too! :P
(and I can't get to the track to watch either so sucked in to me too)
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Enforcer on August 16, 2013, 08:23:08 AM
Check out my in-car highlights package for the ECC, turn up the sound. Best weekend of racing and socialising..
 http://youtu.be/zRDFz0rNad0 (http://youtu.be/zRDFz0rNad0)

Hope the link works otherwise search youtube Enforcer ECC highlights..

Regds
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Enforcer on August 16, 2013, 08:42:25 AM
Write up in unique cars thanks to Victor and Mary Lee..

http://www.uniquecarsmag.com.au/news-and-reviews/article/articleid/84964.aspx (http://www.uniquecarsmag.com.au/news-and-reviews/article/articleid/84964.aspx)
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: alfagtv58 on August 16, 2013, 09:15:22 AM
Write up in unique cars thanks to Victor and Mary Lee..

http://www.uniquecarsmag.com.au/news-and-reviews/article/articleid/84964.aspx (http://www.uniquecarsmag.com.au/news-and-reviews/article/articleid/84964.aspx)

Well written Waldorf, and nice pics by Mother Harriott (as usual).
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: giulia_veloce on August 20, 2013, 07:14:24 AM
Noone replied to the Enforcers in car video or the action at the ECC at Qld raceway.
All I can say= its music.
Very well driven.
Boys having fun with their mates.
Was a bit of overdriveing from some,but im sure they will calm down.
Guess I better watch the vid again,cause it Music and it motivates me

Robert
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: magraith on August 20, 2013, 03:12:51 PM
musica non rumore
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: hammer on August 20, 2013, 09:04:32 PM
I've watched Bill's video three times and loved it. Great car and driver combo - but that wobbly camera mount made me feel seasick!

It was a ripper weekend and although my main ride is a non-VRA compliant sports sedan, I'll be having another crack at the ECC next year if my bro let's me borrow his Sprint again. Hell we might even give grandma's old 1.5 the flick and build it a race engine.

Thanks again to the VRA crew for a wonderful weekend and welcoming us AROCA stalwarts with open arms.

Cheers,
Brent
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: MD on August 20, 2013, 09:38:33 PM
Like you Brent I persevered with the camera antics only because I got much more engrossed in the action at hand. In any case, I cannot comment on film quality based on the two events I put up full of camera shake ! Note to self. Take tripod !

Back with the action, I thought it was a very  intense bit of driving Bill and enjoyed the opportunity to see it, shakes and all. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: magraith on August 24, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
Seems I had more than a few electrical gremlins on the weekend!

My GOPRO only recorded 1:05 mins of the first three races, very frustrating.

However here is some footage from race 4, the last race of the day before we packed our bags and headed for home. 

Thanks for the hospitality QLD and all those that made the meeting such a success, it was a fantastic weekend.

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbDt9vB_Z38
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: hammer on August 26, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
Here's a link to some vision from inside the mighty Alfasud Sprint, during race 4. This is a 30-year-old, bog standard 1.5 twin carb, but we've got it handling nicely. Thanks to Rob Cantle for installing his camera in the Sprint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ogcK7cjTEzg
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Evan Bottcher on August 26, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
This is a 30-year-old, bog standard 1.5 twin carb, but we've got it handling nicely.

That looks like such a hoot!  Sud Pow-ah!
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: hammer on August 27, 2013, 07:36:48 PM
You know it's a hoot Evan. I've watched plenty of vision from your Sud. They're heaps of fun.

We sought the advice of Sud legends Bob Whitehouse and Frank Musco in setting up this little fella and it's paid dividends. Plans are to extend the half cage to a full cage, insert a stocko 1.7 16v and give it an amateur lick of paint and it'll be ready for 2014. My brother will race it in our local comp and hopefully I can trail it to wherever the 2014 ECC is held and resume my battle with the VRA tail-enders.

Cheers,

Brent
Title: Re: 2013 VRA East Coast Challenge
Post by: Frank Musco on August 28, 2013, 11:04:49 PM
Grouse! Sounds really good that engine, brings back memories from the valve bounce days. Nice corner speed.
Good luck with the 16v, looking forward to the footage.