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vjr
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« on: January 07, 2009, 12:10:51 AM »

Just thought I'd give my initial feelings/thoughts/impressions now that I've owned my 156 for a bit over a month. Remember this is my first Alfa in 25 years, so it should be fairly objective. For the record it's a '99 2.0l twin spark manual.

Well, it looks great.. it's definitely nice having a car that stands out from the standard designs. Still catch myself eyeing it off quite a bit! Feels smooth and very refined, especially for a four cylinder car. Some might say it's a bit muted, but I prefer refined. Feels a bit snoozy to me, but I've just come from a car that does the 0-100 dash in 6 flat. You really need to wring its neck to feel like you're going quick, but having said that I think the quietness and smoothness goes some way to fooling you into thinking it's not as brisk as it is (is it really an 8.6sec 0-100 car as per the stats?). I'm just not used to Swifts and Hyundais keeping up with me I guess, usually they're a distant speck by the time I snag 2nd gear. But I'm loving the economy. Even if I can't keep under 10l/100km (haven't filled up enough to have a good idea of economy yet) it's still better than 15-16l/100. Is it worth doing 98ron fuel, either for economy, performance or general running? Steering is very direct--you point, it goes. Gear shift is nice and easy although it did balk going into 2nd at high revs the other day, but I probably rushed it. Ride is nice if not too compliant over the ever present speed humps. I'm slowing to max 30 even for quite shallow ones. I'm sure I used to do 50-60 without spilling my coffee in my Astra a few years back  Smiley The kids love it, especially the hidden rear door handles and boot lock. The boot is quite serviceable, even decent. Interior is nice (I have velour) and seats comfy enough, but I haven't done a long trip yet (without cruise control... sob). Real wood gear knob and steering wheel are kind of different (I like them) but the fake wood fascia is tacky. Did I mention those looks...

On the downside, I'm not loving the thought of maintenance costs, even though I knew it wasn't great (it's far worse than I knew--see a previous thread of mine). The air con sucks. Glad I didn't pay the $50k+ for it new and get a/c like that. The glove box is near useless. The stereo isn't good (I've replaced it). No cup holders *cough*. The brakes squeal annoyingly and embarrassingly, and the brake dust builds up in a week or two on all four alloys. And there's a space saver spare tyre  Undecided

As you can see the cons have little to do with the driving experience and more with the quirks character of the Alfa, and I certainly haven't put it through its paces yet (I'll feel somewhat fragile until I get that timing belt done.. ASAP I promise).

I hope this wasn't too random, and that it gives aspiring first-time 156 owners looking at the 2nd hand market an objective glimpse at some pros and cons of owning this great little car.
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 04:18:02 PM »

Hey VJR

Nice to see some objective feedback on your car and experiences to date. Mine still continues to amaze me, requiring absolutely no costs, apart from the petrol etc.  This may well soon change as it is comming up for a service so will update my views on this once I have dealt with that. 

From what I understanding the JTS engine has a little more oomph compared to the Twinnie, but given I don't thrash it is probably rather academic.  I do love my leather interior, as it is so comfortable all year around.  I can say given I have never had a car with all the toys the 156 does that I don't have any issues with the AC.  Mine is positively Antarctic when on max.  My previous idea of AC was to open the windows on my 105 GTV etc. Ditto the Bose hifi my car came with is superb, albeit at times with the boom box I occasionally cringe a little for being a bit too duff duff.  As to the brakes squealing due to dust I don't seem to have that problem, but then again I don't drive my car daily and I do regularly wash the wheels/car.  So perhaps this keeps that aspect under control.

I do know what you mean re the glovebox.  Mine swollows the car's documentation (manuals) folder and has no space for anything else.  What spacesaver, my Sportwagon has a proper wheel/tyre.  Perhaps that is a sedan thing ?

I do know this much the car runs on the sniff of an oily rag. Fuel consumption on the open road being only marginally worse than a horrible eco Prius.  The 159 is supposed to be even better.  Dave
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1969 Giulia Super (part restored)
1969 AC Fiat 124 sport (Fully restored, owned for 28 yrs !!)

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« Reply #2 on: Today at 08:58:22 PM »

Thanks for the comments Dave. I guess they fixed up a few things in later models.. like the a/c. Calling mine 'climate control' is a really bad joke. As far as I can see the JTS has 7kW and 20Nm over the TS, which is useful but not huge. I've read the TS has max torque available at 3500RPM which is pretty amazing and tractable (and the same as the JTS). It does feel quite good once you get over 3000RPM.. maybe there's not as much need to wring its neck after all (apart from destroying the engine).

I put in 98RON at Caltex tonight.. not sure if it's worth it, but at $1.20 I thought why not. The fuel light was on and I got 57.71 litres in so only had about 5 litres left, or less than 50Km. Reasonable margin for error I guess. I did 533Km on that, so 10.8l/100km which is good. I'll be doing a country drive tomorrow, including some hilly areas, so we'll see how she goes.

Sounds like your JTS has the gadgets.. I do miss my subwoofer from my previous car Smiley. Re the brakes, I've heard its not uncommon for the OEM brakes to do that. Worse though is that my brakes are very 'grippy', that is, a slight touch applies too much braking force. Makes it very hard to drive and makes you look like a beginner, especially in stop-start traffic. I'll have to get that checked. I also regularly was my car and wheels, but I certainly don't wash the brakes Smiley

Yes I have a space saver.. I'm sure buyer pressure soon changed their mind regarding that issue after the early models. Not looking forward to a flat!

I'm going to book in for my timing belt change and thermostat replacement for the 21st (going to the tennis that day so I won't need it).

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