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16  General Category / General Discussion / Re: suitable mid range tyres for combined road and track use on: October 17, 2008, 08:47:23 AM
Ed, I really think you are better off with whatever is on it for road use and buy the Toyo's for the B45's.  Buying a new set of road radials will probably set you back $6-800 min anyway and if you buff them down they're not going to be great for the road anyway.

And if you juist stick the Toyo's on for the track days you should get a lot of use out of them.   Just a thought.
17  Technical / 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) / Re: FINALLY, a decent 105 on: October 16, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
I'm lov'n it!  Should have done a quad cam though....
18  Technical / 932 Series (156, GTV, Spider, 147, and 166) / Re: Alfa 156 worries on: October 16, 2008, 08:37:34 AM
I fitted non-genuine rotors and pads, front and back about 3 weeks ago and they are fine.
19  State Divisions / Competition / Re: Roll Cages For Sprint Cars on: October 14, 2008, 03:03:15 PM
The first questions is whether you ever intend to compete in an event that requires a roll or safety cage  - ie. a race or tarmac rally

If the answer is yes then you can only install a cage based on Schedule J of the CAMS manual.  In a 75 this would be a 6 point (minimum) cage using a combination of the designs in the manual or if you wanted to use cromoly then you would need an engineer or a previously homologated design (very expensive).

Technically any cage used in a CAMS event must comply with schedule J or have stewards approval, however this rule is seldom enforced.

If it will only ever be used at sprints then in reality you do have more freedom however I would not suggest doing anything other than what is in Schedule J.

Answers below:

1)  Is a half cage an option or are they only acceptable for those that already have them?

Schedule J only allows a half cage in an open car (MX5, MG etc)  however for sprints this would be better than nothing even in a closed car.  You cannot do any event that requires a roll cage in a closed car with a half cage.  As i said better than nothing but does not comply with Schedule J.

2)  Is there an accepted appropriate design for our level of motorsport?

Schedule J of the CAMS manual, and within that there is a minimum design.  Again as there is no requirement for a cage at a sprint event and given the non-enforcement at sprint events of the requirement for schedule j cage where a cage is fitted, you could vary this design however I think to vary from the designs in the manual without an engineer is dangerous and would add/save nothing.  The minimum CAMS design is a good comprimise between weight and protection.  This design is a 6 point cage, bracing to the the main hoop, side intrusion bars and roof bracing.  I would also add bracing to the backstays and to the firewall.

This is the design I have used in a number of GTV's and GTV6's.  Don't forget that in racing events where cages are mandatory, racing increases the risk of rollover becuase of the increased likelihood due to cars being in close proximity - it doesn't change the consequence of the rollover - a rollover at a sprint event can be just as bad as a rollover at a race - it's just less likely.  A design that is minmum for racing is just as applicable for sprints.

3)  What are the pros and cons around weld in and bolt in cages?

Welded are stronger, bolt in can be removed but are much more expensive.  If the car is a race car, ie it will never ever go back to be a "road" car then weld the thing in.  Stonger and cheaper.

4)  Are cars road legal with cages in Victoria?

Yes, they can be but there are certain criteria - eg side intrusion bars must be no higher than the base of the seat.  The cage builder can advise - there is also a leaflet available from Vicroads - i have attached a version from 2000 which i think is still current (whoop's - file too big - can't attach - go to vicroads website).  Ditto Ed's comments.

5)  Would the recommended design change if during the remaining life of the car it may end up with a 164 or 24 valve V6 in it?

Probably not.  The basic design discussed above would be fine.  Schedule J applies across all classes of racing and types of vehicles.

6)  Who offers a good reputation and balance of product and price?

Agree with Phil.  Mark is a genius with metal and has done a lot of alfa's.

7)  What budget expectation should I be thinking of?

I'd budget $3k.

Cool  What weight penalty do you have to accept?

For the basic design probably adding around 30-40kgs but you could offset that somewhat with removal of the intrusion bars in the doors.

Please offer your contributions to any of the questions you have an opinion on.  I tried a search on the forum without success, so don't think this has been covered recently.

Thanks,
John
20  General Category / Off Topic / Re: Bathurst '08 on: October 13, 2008, 08:44:16 AM
Well done Lowndes and Whincup...legends..just a great drive....Lowndes is the best touring car driver for some time
21  General Category / Photos & Videos / Re: Lucky i have a lot of Alfettas on: October 13, 2008, 08:42:51 AM
Never mind Mat, good to get the bingle out of the way and safely....and yes you do have a lot of Alfetta's...
22  General Category / Photos & Videos / Re: New Car on: October 08, 2008, 09:57:35 AM
Noice!

Has to be one of the best looking sedans around ATM
23  General Category / Off Topic / Re: So what do you reckon of Topgear Australia on: October 08, 2008, 09:56:12 AM
Unfortunately - thumbs down......bring back the UK.......not sure what an Aust show can bring to the table other than Holden Vs Ford - do we really need a TV version of Motor Magazine......
24  State Divisions / New South Wales / Re: Veloce Racing Association presents The East Coast Challenge on: October 01, 2008, 02:35:28 PM
Yeah, good pic in Auto Action! 

Sorry for sounding like a broken record but only one Vic in the pic!!
25  Technical / 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) / Re: What are standard torsion bar sizes on: October 01, 2008, 12:18:13 PM
The Dulux car runs the standard 36mm bar.
26  Other / Motorsport Administration / Re: Harness on: September 30, 2008, 02:38:57 PM
Here is the bulletin.

http://www.cams.com.au/bulletins/B08-105%20Schedule%20I%20-Safety%20Harnesses.pdf
27  Other / Motorsport Administration / Re: Harness on: September 30, 2008, 02:13:04 PM
Just add 5 years to any FIA harness!!

note: not SFI harnesses yet.
28  Other / Motorsport Administration / Re: Harness on: September 29, 2008, 05:12:30 PM
This has been an issue for sooooooo long (one of the more ridiculous rules) and it taken them all this time to fix it.........about time!  CAMS still has a long way to go though....
29  State Divisions / New South Wales / Re: Veloce Racing Association presents The East Coast Challenge on: September 24, 2008, 02:42:22 PM
It's impressive isn't it!  Would love to see that at Winton or even PI.  (not Sandown - a field of Alfa's deserves corners)

What were the eligibility rules?
30  State Divisions / New South Wales / Re: Veloce Racing Association presents The East Coast Challenge on: September 24, 2008, 09:48:16 AM
Fantastic Phil.  So, how was "my" car?  Did it still look good?
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